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  2. Preface Thoughts, possible choices, decisions. The natural progression when deciding in which manner you want to play this game, that although old still have a special charm in it. Allow me to take you onto a journey that you will soon forget or dismiss: Why you should consider, or be pleased about, the decision of joining our ranks within the rogue class. My nickname is Soyoen, I have close to exclusively been playing as a rogue since the closed beta back in 2004 with a few breaks in between - this is my way to provide understanding of the rogue class in the original version of World of Warcraft. Table of content 1. The Rogue 1.1 Choosing the race 1.2 Road to the level cap 1.3 The class at the level cap 1.4 Preparing for your first raid 1.4.1 Consumables for your first raid 1.4.2 Enchants 1.4.3 Addons 1.4.4 Keybindings 1.5 What can a rogue roughly expect to do in a set of boss battles 1.5.1 Molten Core: Gehennas 1.5.2 Molten Core: Ragnaros 1.5.3 Blackwing Lair: Vaelastrasz the Corrupt 1.5.4 Blackwing Lair: Chromaggus 1.5.5 Zul'Gurub: High priestess Mar'li 1.5.6 Zul'Gurub: Jin'do the Hexxer 1.5.7 The Temple of Ahn'qiraj: Princess Huhuran 1.5.8 The Temple of Ahn'qiraj: C'thun 1.6 Special consumables 2. The important basic mechanics 2.1 Getting rid of misses on yellow attacks 2.2 Rotations & cycles 2.2.1 Rotations 2.2.2 Cycles 2.3 Cooldown management 3. The important advanced mechanics 3.1 Weapon skill 3.1.1 What is it? 3.1.2 Why do I need to have knowledge about it? 3.2 Proc chance & Proc per minute 3.2.1 What is it? 3.2.2 Why is it important to have knowledge about? 3.2.3 Actual PPM 4. Min-maxing insights 4.1 Extra attacks and swing timers 4.1.1 How do they work? 4.1.2 Why is this important to know? 4.2 The task of damage dealers 5. RogueDPS Reborn spreadsheet The Rogue 1.1 Choosing the race Something as trivial as making the choice of what race you wish to play can have substantial effect on your ability to compete in the end game content as a rogue. This is especially apparent if you are looking to play on Alliance as Human rogues stand out from the rest due to weapon skill, but more on that later. The rogue class calculates critical strike chance from a general understanding in terms of [Total Agility/29* + other critical effect gains], in reality though the agility required per 1% of critical strike should approach 28,979343 instead of 29. The difference in terms of DPS is very minor and can instead be seen as a fun fact retrieved from old ct profiles. The difference between the base attributes of the different races has a minor impact on the DPS in the end game content: What really matters is instead racial abilities such as “Will of the Forsaken” and “Blood Fury” amongst others. With that said I need to stress again that the biggest difference between races is present to Alliance players. To ease things up for you I have constructed a list with each of the races below for respective faction, in falling order from best to worst in terms of PvE performance: Alliance: Human > Night Elf > Dwarf/Gnome Horde: Orc > Troll > Undead 1.2 Road to the level cap The leveling experience as a rogue differ from the majority of the other classes, due to the stealth ability that enables you to skip through packs of non player characters (NPCs). You will quickly learn to mash that sinister strike or backstab button, and realize just how easy crowd control can ruin your day. As you approach level 24, I would recommend a talent distribution like the one that can be found in the link below. The road afterwards would either be invested towards relentless strikes in the assassination tree, weapon expertise in the combat tree or opportunity and beyond in the subtlety tree. http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#fMZMIV Backstab will be one of your most valuable abilities early on in the game as you can sidestep "through" NPCs, and as the NPC is always facing you, eventual delay will make you able to backstab the NPC if you quickly repeat the sidestep. On some server projects this is a lot harder to pull off but when you get a hang of it, in terms of spamming your backstab button, your leveling pace will pick up momentum. Key talents for leveling speed are Remorseless Attacks, Ruthlessness, Relentless Strikes, Improved Sinister Strike, Precision, Improved Backstab, Riposte, Blade Flurry, Weapon Expertise, Master of Deception, Opportunity, Ghostly Strike, Serrated Blades, Preparation and Dirty Deeds. Obviously some of these will be more suited for a more hostile environment whilst others focus more on a strict PvE environment. Notable leveling dungeons that feature good gear for rogues to ease up the leveling phase are: Ragefire Chasm, The Deadmines, Blackfanthom Depths, Gnomeregan, Scarlet Monastery, Razorfen Downs, Maraudon, and Blackrock Depths. 1.3 The class at the level cap When you have finally reached the level cap a new chapter begins in this version of World of Warcraft; the gathering of your preraid best in slot items. As time progresses and more items and quest chains are unlocked, it becomes easier to obtain great items to put you right into the social mess of raiding. Great rogues are always in demand but hard to find, and in this version of World of Warcraft rogues have one of the more action packed roles. In Dungeons up to 10 men you can expect to aid your group with crowd control and out of combat pack control with abilities such as sap, gouge, blind, and distract. When progressing up to 20 man raids you will still make use of the same abilities on certain packs, but it becomes more of a wipe recovery and/or avoidance maneuver - with that said if you manage to pull out key distracts and/or likewise that enables your raid group to survive a potential wipe then you have created good value for the team. In 40 man raids your job is more one dimensional; Maximum damage per second (DPS) at all times WITHOUT screwing up kicks, rotations, positioning, and likewise. As Ghostcrawler once said: "the class is ultimately very mathy", and makes for a perfect fit for eventual players who want to tryhard and pull out some extra chunks of DPS. The rogue class is easy to learn, hard to master and one of the most rewarding classes in a PVE environment - especially if you are playing Horde with access to windfury totems. 1.4 Preparing for your first raid 1.4.1 Consumables for your first raid Looking away from obtaining your best in slot preraid gear you will need to prepare a few other things in order to ease up your ability to perform. Mongoose potions, Juju power, and winterfall firewater are all great ways of boosting your DPS. However for your very first raid it shouldn't be the focal point as protection potions and likewise may provide greater aid to your raidgroup by easing up the job of the healers. If money is low and you can only sustain defensive potions I recommend looking at DPS boosting potions one tier below mongoose potions. 1.4.2 Enchants Something you most definitely should have on your gear when entering your first raid are enchants, and more specifically the weapon enchants in terms of crusader on your main hand weapon slot combined with either crusader or agility on the offhand. This is due to crusader providing so much more as a single enchant then most other ingame at the main hand weapon slot and is thus very worthwhile to acquire, especially if you team up with another rogue/druid in order to farm Archivist Galford for righteous orbs. Aside from this, all enchants that provide agility would do good before your first raid BUT crusader on the main hand should have priority. 1.4.3 Addons There will be a set of required addons to use for your first raid, usually your guild has their own KTM threat meter and a few other addons they require you to use. I however will give you what you really need to hit the ground running, the list below will provide you with good possibilities of creating a very functional and clean raiding UI. Some of the addons may requires ACE2, prat is also a very useful addon but not completely in my taste. BearCastBar: Swing timers combined with a new Cast bar. Superb for Windfury users. BigWigs: Boss addon that is commonly used to track certain abilities, combine with NECB. NECB: Addon that tracks enemies and has a built in boss addon, combine with BigWigs. Bongos: Easy to use for setting up your bars. Buffalo: Tracking buffs and debuffs, easy to use and nice looking. Chronometer: Every rogues favorite CD/SND tracker. Classic Snowfall: Instant button pushes. ShaguPlates: Improve the ingame nameplates to actually look good. EnergyWatch_V2: Combine with LUNA. KTM Threat meter: To keep track of the threat on intensive fights. LunaUnitFrames: The best unit frames addon in vanilla. Recap: To keep track of your shit for casual theorycrafting. SimpleMinimap: Improving the visuals on the minimap. Stunwatch: Keeping track of stuns and likewise in dungeons & 20mans. SWStats: Your favorite raiding addon. Tinytip: UI Improvement. XLoot: Improves loot window. 1.4.4 Keybindings The following abilities and consumables are recommended to be easy accessible when you start raiding: Sinister strike, Slice'n'dice, Eviscerate, Backstab, Kick, Evasion, Sprint, Vanish, Adrenaline rush, Blade flurry, Distract, Feint, Thistle tea, Greater X protection potion, Free action potion, Instant poison, and Bandages. My recommendation is that you make a priority list for yourself of what you value the most as everyone has a different way of playing, and then doing the binds in whichever order suits your needs. I've highlighted some abilities in the list above that are actually crucial in vanilla content. 1.5 What can a rogue roughly expect to do in a set of boss battles 1.5.1 Molten Core: Gehennas The boss fight against Gehennas is a easy fight to learn and hard to get right due to its duration. At the maximum level you will use a free action potion before the first aoe stuns come out from the two adds, while pulling out a perfect rotation to cleave the adds down in combination with the boss. In speedruns it can be common to pull the next pack before the boss is dead, so minimizing the damage taken from rain of fire is crucial to your raid groups speed. 1.5.2 Molten Core: Ragnaros In the last fight within the Molten Core you face of against Ragnaros, the key to perform well on this fight is to time eventual knockbacks. On some servers this is a harder thing to achieve, without the movement speed buff from the boots enchant it should take approx 3.3-3.6sec to run clear from the aoe blast. If the DPS in your raid group doesn't cut it and the sons of flame make an appearence it is your job together with a tank to deal with the non controlled sons. 1.5.3 Blackwing Lair: Vaelastrasz the Corrupt This is the best fight in the game for any and every rogue, unless your tanks doesn't do enough threat per second - in which case it kinda blows. "Infinite" amount of energy will make backstab the go to build on this encounter, and if you are usually using swords I recommend using the build posted in the link below. On this fight you are guaranteed threat issues and will especially if Horde, utilize feint to reduce your threat in the beginning 20-25s of the fight. Remember: Even if vanish doesn't clear your threat on KTM or likewise, it is still cleared. http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#f0efoxZMIV0bVzxfo 1.5.4 Blackwing Lair: Chromaggus One of the longer fights pre AQ and Naxxramas, on this fight you need to perfect the rotations you are using whilst utilizing both grenades and likewise to maximize your damage during the nature and fire weaknesses. To this you also need to make sure you gain the best possible uptime between the breaths without risking eating one, in short it's a game of uptimes. 1.5.5 Zul'Gurub: High priestess Mar'li Aside from the obvious of providing a good chunk of DPS, you will need to provide kick assistance on the drain life ability whilst making sure that no adds grow to large. In contrast to the bat boss within the same raid, kicking isn't as important here but it will speed up your raid speed by a bit if your raid DPS is low. 1.5.6 Zul'Gurub: Jin'do the Hexxer Against Jin'do the Hexxer your main job is to kill the totems, totems, and totems. Whenever the totems stop dying you will shortly experience a wipe so your job is crucial on this encounter. Looking further into the encounter you can ease up the skeletons spawning with Stratholme Holy Water to ease up the job for other players within your raid group. 1.5.7 The Temple of Ahn'qiraj: Princess Huhuran Welcome to AQ40, you will now stack tons of nature resistance in order to "soak" the aoe damage Huhuran spits out every now and then. Make sure to bring extra protection potions as you'll need them for lateron in the raid. 1.5.8 The Temple of Ahn'qiraj: C'thun At C'thun your role is to kill your assigned eye tentacle whenever it spawns whilst keeping your distance to the players around you. To ease up the work of healers and likewise you will drink a green liquid goo every 2 minutes (Greater Nature protection potion). 1.6 Special consumables There are several consumables that will help boost your ability to perform well in raids, top tier rogues love to keep thistle tea on a constant cooldown whilst having a stocks of both free action potions and restorative potions. Engineering items such as grenades (Dark Iron BomB / Thorium Grenade / Dense dynamite) and Goblin Sapper Charge make for good use throughout raids. We can of course not forget the special JuJu items such as Flurry that can give a decent boost on longer encounters. The important basic mechanics 2.1 Getting rid of misses on yellow attacks Something that you can't avoid is the unavoidable dodge chance every boss have which sits at the baseline of 5% and can scale up depending on the difference between your weapon skill and the defence skill of the NPC. What can be taken care of though is the chance to miss on yellow attacks. Acquiring between [7-9] in hit including talents will make sure that you never miss a yellow attack, of course weapon skill does have an impact on the amount of hit required. 2.2 Rotations & cycles 2.2.1 Rotations Slice'n'dice - SND, Eviscerate - E Sword/Mace/Fist common rotation: 3 SND - 5 SND - 5 EVIS Dagger common rotation: 5 SND Rogues have for a very long time held themselves to a few rotations of which can be found in the small list above this sentence. Rotations is a very real tool in order to increase your DPS without obtaining better gear, and sadly the two rotations above haven't evolved in a very long time and there's not enough space to evolve the dagger rotation (boy have I done the math). The sword rotation has however gotten a slap in the face and been extended with the release of the RogueDPS Reborn spreadsheet, be sure to check it out at the bottom for more details on the cycles DPS. Sinister strike #1: 3snd-5snd-5evis-4snd-5evis-3snd-5snd-5evis - REPEAT Sinister strike #2: 3snd-5snd-5evis-5snd-4evis - REPEAT 2.2.2 Cycles DPS cycles used by different specs and rotations has been widely debated over the years in the rogue vanilla community. From what I've seen there have been several individuals over the years stating that the dagger spec theoretically have the best possible DPS output. It is true that the dagger cycle rotations have higher DPS output, however this is often put at rest by the sword specialization contribution. The only tier so far that daggers actually can beat swords in is AQ40, with the reasoning being of the superb weapon skill gain from Death's sting. That said, daggers is not a bad talent spec - it just lacks non lackluster itemization and talent options. Had there been better itemization and talent build options for dagger rogues in this version of World of Warcraft, I doubt there would be any sword/mace rogues on Alliance - Horde however would still take windfury to bed all nights of the week. 2.3 Cooldown management Managing your cooldowns throughout raids and dungeons will be crucial for your performance, my only advice to how to improve this is to plan your raids ahead. Think about at what packs you want/can use cooldowns and when you need to save them for later usages. Zul'Gurub is a very good example when it comes to how valuable cooldowns can be to have at the ready due to the constant fear of asspulls. The important advanced mechanics 3.1 Weapon skill 3.1.1 What is it? I've mentioned weapon skill several times in the topic and I have yet gone into detail to what it really is and why you need to have some basic knowledge of it. To make this as easy explainable as possible: You are a fourth grader (max level) in the South Park elementary school whilst PC Principal (level 63) is the boss you need to take down. Now obviously there are some physical differences between you and Mr. PC Principal, and those differences affect your chance to have a successful punch at the boss. Aside from that; since Mr. PC Principal has awesome physique 40% of your blows doesn't quite hurt him as much as they should if you were hitting, say, Kyle. 3.1.2 Why do I need to have knowledge about it? Those 40% blows are called glancing blows in World of Warcraft and have a reduced damage output when attacking NPCs with a higher defense skill than you have weapon skill. You can reduce the damage reduction by collecting items or talents that increase your weapon skill, or if we connect it to Mr. PC Principal by sending in a Horde of pregnant Mexicans. The weapon skill system is substantial to your DPS, but luckily rogues get +5 on pretty much every weapon skill by talents which ease up everything by a ton. This makes it so that instead of your glancing blows hitting Mr. PC Principal for ~65% of your original weapon damage, they now hit him for ~85% with ~15% left to "collect" by amassing weapon skill into your favor. There are a couple of formulas that are currently being used by different private servers: Old Nostalrius used Athan's formula which was compiled with thousands of hits by Athan et al. back in the day and provided a solid empirical ground to stand on, Kronos are currently using a low end/high end variant where glancing blow damage can't exceed normal damage by amassing Weapon Skill (LE/HE, Limit 0,9999...) which could finally be confirmed by looking at small amounts of data from NPCs 4 levels above the player, other servers use either the LE/HE version with a limit around 95% of normal damage or a very simple linear formula. The LE/HE formulas lose their gain past 308 weapon skill, the linear formulas lose their gain past 310 weapon skill, Athan's formula loses it's gain past 315 weapon skill: Gear/Talent according to relevant formula. 3.2 Proc chance & Proc per minute 3.2.1 What is it? Many items in this version of World of Warcraft have certain chance to do a special event in terms of a damage spell, extra attack, attack speed bonus, or likewise. Sword specialization is a good example of a static proc chance, the same applies for hand of justice. There are other items however that doesn't list a certain proc chance like Vis'kag the Bloodletter, or Ironfoe. These items are calculated using a proc per minute (PPM) type of system which uses the following calculation: (PPM) / (60/Weapon speed) = Proc chance. 3.2.2 Why is it important to have knowledge about? Because things aren't as obvious as they sometimes seem to be, PPM type of systems doesn't work well enough in this version of World of Warcraft to control how many times an item can proc for someone playing the rogue class. The reason for this is that a majority of our attacks are instant attacks that work to artificially boost our PPM rate by providing more attacks than thought of. This brings me into the next topic. 3.2.3 Actual PPM Actual PPM is how many procs you gain under a minute after you've been using attack speed altering effects, alot of instant attacks whilst getting a few windfury/sword specialization/hand of justice procs. Ebon Hand, as example, has a PPM set at 2,0869 (assuming Blizzard values), with the actual PPM rising to almost the double in the main hand. I need to state clearly that PPM and actual PPM are two different entities of gaining understanding around the rogue class, hence why I included it here to give you something to think about. Min-maxing insights 4.1 Extra attacks and swing timers 4.1.1 How do they work? To answer this we need to differentiate between procs from main hand attacks, offhand attacks and instant attacks. Main hand attacks that proc an extra attack will not have any impact on the swing timer, period. Offhand attacks that proc an extra attack will have the extra attack performed by the main hand whilst resetting the main hand swing timer. Instant attacks that proc an extra attack will see the attack performed from the main hand and reset the main hand swing timer, patch indications of this can be found from 2.1.1 and 2.1.2 but obviously there are other earlier sources available as well. In the picture below you will find an example of the alleged proc sequence of extra attacks: 4.1.2 Why is this important to know? The value of extra attacks will be greatly reduced if you do not play your part and play this knowledge to your advantage. If you conduct an instant attack late into the main hand swing timer and acquire a proc, you will lose much of the benefit of that free extra attack as the main hand swing timer will reset. If you instead time your instant attacks to the moment after your swing timer resets you will gain much more benefit from said extra attacks. It is therefore of vital importance when min-maxing to know when your swing timers will reset, when you can expect a proc to occur, and how you can act to make sure this information benefits you the most. This is especially true to Horde players and windfury users as they are subject to more extra attacks, many of which that for a short moment of time will increase the AP of the character – oh how I do love the vanilla design sometimes. 4.2 The task of damage dealers In essence the role of any damage dealer is to save time for the entire raid and if you do happen to die at regular pulls when no one else is dying, you are very quickly becoming less valuable for the raid to maintain. Being a damage dealer is in the general case not as appreciated as being a great tank or a superb healer: Because how can any individual understand, experience and acknowledge that you alone can save the raid 2-5 seconds per minute depending on your performance? The effect of your hard work becomes easier to materialize when you compare a group that performs poorly to a group that performs well: You do not need to only improve yourself, but others around you as well. In the end a raid can have great tanks and superb healers, but they will still remain in Molten Core for over two hours if their damage dealers are not. The opposite is surely true as well: A raid can have great damage dealers but poor tanks and healers, so they will remain in Molten Core for quite some time. RogueDPS Reborn spreadsheet I have for the majority of my time within the vanilla rogue community maintained my own sheets that I based around attribute input to make things a bit easier to get a grip on. In the beginning of 2015 I thought about releasing my sheets but decided that the user experience with some of them would simply be horrible. I went on and made a new sheet from the ground up taking the best bits from my previous sheets and one entry from the classical RogueDPS sheet that I cleaned up and modified to make it easier to overlook (Energy analysis tool by Kalman, which since late 2016 is being redesigned to deal with the implementation of the Seal Fate talent). Since the release of the spreadsheet I've seen over 8000 unique downloads from mediafire alone and I have continued to improve the spreadsheet since. That is until the final edit release 2016-05-16 which will remain so unless a serious issue is reported. It is my pleasure to introduce to you RogueDPS Reborn, which can be found in any of the links below, may it serve you well when arguing over wellfare epics Mediafire: http://www.mediafire.com/download/yfrdb4a34sxius3/RogueDPS_Reborn_by_Soyoen.xlsx Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/efwxz2qg1lo8jp3/AACHDH4YO4o91Plwdzb6eIDYa?dl=0 Ending words If there is something that I want you to take with you from what I've posted above, or on your coming journey as a rogue then it is this the following; Be happy that you decided to roll a rogue, respect the rotations, any race works for a rogue who got the will, and don't make a meme out of my weapon skill explanation! Finally for this crestfall "release" I've revamped parts of the guide and added a new chapter in terms of min-maxing insights, I remain excited for the future of this project and look forward to discussions of mechanics as the project move closer to closed/open beta and eventual release. P.S: I miss a "justify" option for the text. All the best champs Soyoen
  3. _________ World Buffs _________ In this guide I will be covering what all world buffs do and how to get them. If you feel the need to chime in and cover some ground, of which I'm sure that I've missed, feel free to do so! I’m open minded for all questions and suggestions regarding the guide and I will gladly hear them out. You can contact me on Crestfall's discord channel or on Crestfall's forum via PM's or by commenting on this thread. What Are "World Buffs" And Why Gather Them? World buffs are very powerful buffs which you can gather in several zones of Azeroth. You do not need these buffs to be able to beat any of the content in vanilla by any means but it will strengthen your raid immensely. In vanilla WoW, class mechanics aren't that hard to master, instead gear optimization and world buffs are what will make you stand out from the rest. So it'll definitely be ideal to gather all of these world buffs if you're stuck on a boss fight or if you want to compete on the TPS/DPS/HPS meters. One last thing. If you're a main tank then I cannot recommend you enough to gather these world buffs for every single raid as it will strengthen your entire raid ridiculously much, far far more than if anyone else would be gathering them. World Buffs Quick List Rallying Cry of the Dragonslayer +10% Spell Crit, +5% Melee/Ranged Crit, +140 AP - 120 min Songflower Serenade +15 all stats, +5% Spell/Melee/Ranged Crit - 60 min Resist Fire +83 Fire Resistance - 60 min Warchief's Blessing +300 HP, +15% Melee Haste, +10 MP5 - 60 min (Horde only) DM North Buffs (DM Tribute) +15% Max HP, +200 AP, +3% Spell Crit - 120 min (Patch 1.3) Sayge's Fortunes (Darkmoon Faire) Choose between +10% Damage/+10% Agi, Int, Spirit, Stam or Str/+10% armor/+25 magic resist - 120 min (Patch 1.6) Spirit of Zandalar +10% Movement Speed, +15% Stats - 120 min (Patch 1.7 - Persists through death up until patch 1.11) Lordaeron's Blessing +5% Max HP - 30 min (Patch 1.11) Traces of Silithyst +5% Damage 30 min (Patch 1.12) Rallying Cry of the Dragonslayer Stats and duration: +10% Spell Crit, +5% Melee/Ranged Crit, +140 AP - 120 min How to get: When Head of Onyxia or Head of Nefarian is turned in, the players located in (or nearby) Orgrimmar or Stormwind are buffed with this buff. Songflower Serenade Stats and duration: +15 all stats, +5% Spell/Melee/Ranged Crit - 60 min How to get: Cleanse a Corrupted Songflower and then loot a Cleansed Songflower in Felwood to receive the buff To cleanse a Corrupted Songflower you first have to complete the quest Cleansing Felwood which then unlocks a few new quests. Some of these quests will only be available depending on which profession you have, however there is also a quest for those with no profession (Salve via Hunting, Salve via Mining, Salve via Gathering, Salve via Skinning and Salve via Disenchanting). Each of the "Salve via X" quests rewards you with Cenarion Plant Salve which is needed to cleanse a Corrupted Songflower (or any of the other corrupted plants in Felwood). Once a Corrupted Songflower has been cleansed, it will stay cleansed for the next 2 hours however the plant can only be looted once every 25 minutes. Note: If multiple people loot the plants at more or less the exact time then everyone will be rewarded, thus I highly recommend everyone to install FelwoodGather which is an addon from retail vanilla. One of it's many features is to provide an in game countdown timer so that everyone can get rewarded from the same plant. Corrupted Songflower Locations (Roughly): Resist Fire Stats and duration: +83 Fire Resistance - 60 min How to get: Mind Control a Scarshield Spellbinder (either by the Priest spell or the Engineering device), found in Blackrock Spire and use his abilities to buff you and your raid members. Notes: Sometimes the tooltip will say differing amounts of Fire Resistance, but the buff always provides 83 resistance. Stacks with Paladin's resistance aura and Shaman's resistance totem. Warchief's Blessing (Horde Only) Stats and duration: +300 HP, +15% Melee Haste, +10 MP5 - 60 min (Horde only) How to get: When the head of Rend Blackhand is returned after a player completes "For the Horde!" (the end of the first part of the Onyxia pre-quest chain), all players located in Orgrimmar and The Crossroads are buffed. Dire Maul North Buffs (DM Tribute) Stats and duration: +15% Max HP, +200 AP, +3% Spell Crit - 120 min (Patch 1.3) How to get: To get these buffs you will have to clear a full DM Tribute run and talk to the remaining bosses. The DM Tribute run is a way to improve the gear dropped from Dire Maul north as well as getting some powerful world buffs. When King Gordok is killed, the player is declared king and all the remaining bosses give tribute which is often better than the gear they drop when you kill them individually, when you talk to each of the remaining bosses after you've been declared king, they will buff you. The goal is therefore to kill the king without killing any other bosses. Sayge's Fortunes (Darkmoon Faire) Stats and duration: Choose between +10% damage/+10% any stat/+10% armor/+25 magic resist - 120 min (Patch 1.6) How to get: These buffs will only be available when Darkmoon Faire opens which happens once every month. Darkmoon Faire will rotate between spawning outside either Thunderbluff or Goldshire (Elwynn Forest). You can participate in the Darkmoon Faire regardless of what faction you are and where it spawns. If you go to the fortune-seeking Gnoll, "Sayge", he will tell you your fortune by giving you a strong buff and a small note. You can only receive a new buff after at least two hours and if your buff has run out. You can choose which buff Sayge should buff you with by following this chart: Spirit of Zandalar Stats and duration: +10% movement speed, +15% all stats - 120 min (Patch 1.7) How to get: When the Heart of Hakkar is turned in to Molthor on Yojamba Isle as part of The Heart of Hakkar quest, all players on the Isle and in Booty Bay will receive the buff. Yojamba Isle Location: Lordaeron's Blessing Stats and duration: +5% Max HP - 30 min (Patch 1.11) How to get: Take control of the northpass tower in Eastern Plaguelands and click the Lordaeron Shrine which appears outside the door. Notes: The buff only persists in the plaguelands and instances/raids within the plaguelands (Scholomance and Stratholme and Naxxramas) Lordaeron Shrine Location (Roughly): Traces of Silithyst Stats and duration: +5% Damage - 30 min (Patch 1.12) How to get: Traces of Silithyst is a buff acquired after turning in Silithyst at the player's respective collection site in Silithus. To pick up Silithyst, locate a geyser and pick it up. The geyser will despawn, and the player will be carrying the Silithyst. While carrying it, your movement speed is reduced (abilities like "Sprint" will not have any effect) and you will be unable to mount without dropping the Silithyst. The other way of getting Silithyst is locating a player of the opposing faction carrying some. Upon damaging that player, he will drop his/her Silithyst, creating a Silithyst Mound allowing any player to temporarily pick up the Silithyst. After collecting Silithyst, run to your faction's turn in point (See location below), displayed on the map and get the buff. You will also get 19 Honor Point and 10 reputation with the Cenarion Circle faction as well as 1 progress point for The Silithyst Must Flow world PvP event.
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    First off lets talk Talents: (Be sure to switch to vanilla before viewing) 13/0/38 PvP - This is pretty simple. 14/0/37 PvE (Dungeon) - I would recommend this for dungeons. 20/0/31 PvE (Raids) - This is the recommended PvE Raid spec because certain spells are removed for raids. A few Questions I can already see being asked: Why Spirit Tap over Blackout? They're both fairly useless, but if you can time Mind Blast just right on an add, you can reap the benefits of Spirit Tap on bosses. I only really use this on infernals/constructs on Nef. Choose Blackout if you ever want to pvp; you're not losing hardly anything here dps-wise. I find that it also procs from killing players, even though the tooltip doesn't have the "or honor" addition on it from later patches. Why 5/5 Improved Mind Blast? Ideally in your rotation you want to be able to cast 2 Mind Flays then a Mind blast. On some fights your Mind Flay is pushed back, so I've found that it's actually really nice to have 5/5 Improved Mind Blast. After trying it out, I definitely think it's a bigger overall dps increase than the regen gained from Mental Agility. Why no improved Vampiric Embrace? Since there are only 16 debuff slots available in raids, there really isn't room for VE on bosses. Also, it causes a TON of extra threat (especially when combined with MB). Why no points into Shadow Affinity? There's absolutely no need for the 3 points in Shadow Affinity, as Silent Resolve affects spells from every school of magic, and you have Fade. You don't need a 45% reduction in your Shadow threat, that's absurd. Rotation: I know this is really complicated so I am going to write this down. SW:P-MF-MF-MB-MF-MF-MB-etc. Refresh SW:P as soon as it ends then continue the rotation. If you're running low on mana, skip MB and just use SW:P and MF. If you're oom, just use MF when you can to keep up your debuff for the warlocks. What about mana control? Pop a Demonic Rune as soon as you have ~1500 mana from your max. After that, use a Major Mana Potion when you are ~2500 mana from your max. Continue using these on CD until the boss is dead. Stats: In general, Hit (to 6% cap from gear)>Spellpower>mp5>Int>Crit>Spirit Why did I place hit over spellpower? If you can't hit, you can't Crit! With hit cap you should only miss about 1% of the time. How much spellpower is equal to 1% hit? It depends on your dps. If you're doing 300 DPS, 1% more missing will result in a 3 DPS loss on average. 3 DPS is roughly equivalent to 6 spellpower, so at 300 DPS 1% hit is approximately equal to 6 spellpower. At 600 DPS, 1% more missing will result in a 6 DPS loss. At 600 DPS, 1% hit is approximately equal to 12 spellpower. As you can see, hit becomes more valuable as you get more gear. This is purely from a DPS loss standpoint too; you also lose precious mana when you miss.
  5. ---Triface's Guide to Threat and Tanking in Vanilla--- **Disclaimer: This guide was not written by me. I've only done some formatting. All credit goes to the Reddit user Triface for writing this guide! You can find his original comment here. I'm submitting it to the Crestfall Forums for the sake of posterity.** Defensive Stance The stance you are in affects how much threat you deal: Battle Stance and Berserker Stance both give your threat a x0.8 multiplier, meaning that if you do something that causes 100 raw threat it will only cause 80 threat in these stances. Defensive Stance on the other hand has a x1.3 multiplier, so that 100 threat is now 130. While there are some benefits to using the other stances, they are usually specific to only a few situations and to some more advanced techniques which you would mainly need when raiding. In general you want to ignore the other stances as they will only complicate things for little benefit (the main exception to this rule is using Mocking Blow which I will go into a bit more detail about later). The Pull As a tank you should always be the one to pull, the reasons for this are twofold: The mobs attack you first which makes them easy to group together and the damage that they do will be giving you rage right away. In order to pull aggro from someone you need to cause 10-30% (10% in melee, 30% ranged) more threat than the person at the top of the mob's hate list. If you are the first to pull then you are instantly at the top of the hate list and everyone else needs to do at least 10% more threat than you to gain aggro. It's always best to pull with your ranged weapon if possible, this way you can always pull to a safe position and minimise the risk of other packs of mobs getting aggroed by accident. After pulling, the first thing you want to do is to activate Bloodrage - gaining rage causes threat at a rate of 5 threat per 1 rage so you are instantly putting out threat before the mobs have even reached you and you have some rage to start using your skills right away. Rotations So you have pulled the pack of mobs and activated Bloodrage. Nine times out of ten the next step is to Shield Block - this means that you will almost certainly block the first hit which will enable you to use your most powerful threat-generating ability: Revenge. Revenge is both the most efficient threat ability that you have (even including the cost of Shield Block) and the highest threat-generating ability in your arsenal outside of Shield Slam. You should use Revenge on the main target on cooldown, using Shield Block to proc it when necessary. Next is Sunder Armor: this is your bread and butter threat spam skill. You generally want to put one or two Sunder Armor on the main target after Revenge just to put you ahead of the DPS. Heroic Strike shouldn't be used at all unless you are generating rage faster than you are able to spend it with Sunder Armor, which won't be often in 5-mans. At this point, you need to start thinking about generating threat on the adds. Contrary to popular belief, Thunderclap is actually a poor choice for AoE threat in vanilla; Battle Shout is almost always the better option. In vanilla, Battle Shout does 55 threat per person buffed (so 275 threat in a 5-man party) split between all the mobs which can be compared to the 130 split threat plus the damage caused per mob with Thunderclap. When you add in the multipliers for being in Battle Stance (x0.8 threat) or Defensive Stance (x1.3 threat) that changes to 375 threat total for Battle Shout vs. 104 + (damage x0.8) threat for Thunderclap. Another thing to take into consideration is that Thunderclap costs 20 rage compared to Battle Shout's 10 rage, meaning that you can get two shouts to one clap. In addition to this, since Battle Shout is a buff it causes no damage so it doesn't break CC and has full threat at any range from the mobs since it is affecting your allies rather than the mobs directly, while Thunderclap's damage can break CC and only causes threat to the mobs hit by the skill. A Battle Shout or two will build up some initial threat on all mobs, giving you some time to start cycling through the adds; solidifying your threat with Sunder Armor. Your average rotation will look something like this: Pull ---> Bloodrage ---> Shield Block ---> Revenge main target ---> Sunder Armor main target x1-2 ---> Battle Shout x1-2 ---> Sunder Armor adds one at a time, switching to Revenge main target whenever it's up, with extra Sunder Armor on the main target as needed. There will be deviations depending on the situation of course; for example if you need to gather up caster mobs with Shield Bash, but this is the general order you want to go with. Managing Your Group The hardest part of tanking is generally trying to stop your group from doing stupid shit . From the high damage DPS with no concept of threat management or crowd control mechanics to the healers who think that they need to keep everyone at 100% at all times, no matter how well you play you will lose aggro to these people and it will always be your fault. Always. Taunt is your go-to skill for these situations: it works by giving you threat equal to the highest person on the monster's hate list (so if you have aggro already it does nothing in that regard) and forces the monster to attack you for a time. During that time you need to build your threat up quickly so that the mob doesn't just switch back after the Taunt ends. The temptation is to Taunt as soon as you lose aggro but say a DPS gets aggro, takes some hits and you taunt it back, then your healer throws a big heal on the DPS and gains aggro instead; the cooldown on Taunt will seem like an eternity at that point! You should generally save Taunt for when your healer gets aggro since a dead DPS is a slower fight but a dead healer is a wipe. If you think the healer is safe you can Taunt but sometimes it is better to let a DPS take a couple of hits to help them remember that they need to manage their threat as much as you need to manage yours . You also have Mocking Blow available in Battle Stance if your Taunt wasn't enough or was resisted. Challenging Shout, the AoE taunt, is another option if things are looking really grim. Binding both of these abilities to a key is very useful and putting Mocking Blow in the same position on your Battle Stance action bar as Taunt is on your Defensive Stance action bar lets muscle memory aid you when switching to Battle Stance. Using Tarket Markers to mark targets (skull icon etc.) can help greatly in keeping the group on the right target and keeping CC from being broken, so where possible you want to do this or at least try and get the group leader to do it. Additionally, another great piece of advice is getting a threat meter addon as this can give you pre-warning of losing aggro and makes you aware of those in the group with poor aggro management. There are a lot of other little points as well but I think this has gotten pretty huge already so I will leave it at that. I hope this helps you! TL;DR (Almost) Always be in Defensive Stance. Always be the one to pull. Pull from range to a safe spot. Skill order after pulling is generally Bloodrage ---> Shield Block ---> Revenge main target ---> Sunder Armor main target x1-2 ---> Battle Shout x1-2 ---> cycle through adds using a Sunder Armor on each while using Revenge on main target whenever you can plus the odd Sunder Armor. Try and save Taunt for pulling aggro from your healer. Try and manage your group by calling targets. Get a threat meter addon.
  6. I'm doing allot of reading on holy priest cause i want to get into a good raiding guild to experience the end-game stuff i never did. I thought i would share some of the more useful info/tools i have found out there. Maybe you can share some knowledge and tips with me also. My top wish would be to get Benediction. I think i looks totally awesome and i never got one myself. I'll start by giving you the best links if found for holy priest BIS. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TdTqUiDQ-wpHG2z58kLPMV1GJk5uIjIPL0InhRyyTY8/edit#gid=0 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l2o5WhYf18AsprwRoLYvuaSP96Y2xxJE743xXyenfHk/edit#gid=2026062050 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ReZeaPM6oKVvdBB3v1kFQUZdAHeBs3-Ri4stOd8zM-U/edit#gid=550464832
  7. Much smaller than usual "mini-guide" incoming, moderate amount of math incoming. Googledoc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19ine4BKMJNblDIvD0ZneMQwOvBrZR5MPtTzAHIMuZc8/edit?usp=sharing What is the most efficient way to level a feral Druid when it comes to optimizing your damage output and finisher selection? The above table presumes an untalented 45 energy cost Claw, as well as an untalented Ferocious Bite (FB). It uses pure baseline numbers only. This post presumes that you are fighting 1v1 and wont be able to shred on demand, and that you will be playing without powershifting. That's reasonably simple. Presuming we have a Druid at high enough level to use each ability, we'll use 0 AP to make the math nice and easy. Rip should not be affected by armour, it will always do straight damage. FB and Claw are affected by armour, and their damage will be increased by Faerie Fire (Feral). Q1: Is there ever a time where Claw is better than a 1 point FB? Short Answer: From an energy usage standpoint, no, from a damage standpoint, yes. FB will always do more damage per point of energy spent when you compare FB damage to the bonus damage awarded by the Claw ability. However, when comparing pure damage, when you add in the native white damage from Claw, Claw will always do more damage than a 1CP Bite. If we take a level 60 Druid, with all skill levels, and presume they do an average white hit of 200 damage; (200+115) = 315/45 = 7 damage per energy point spent with Claw R5. 229/35 = 6.54 damage per energy spent with FB rank 5 at 35 energy. Q2: Is it better to pool my energy and use FB at 100 energy, or to use it straight away at 35 energy? Short Answer: Use it sooner and don't waste the pooled energy. Long Answer: The additional damage from bonus energy is always better off used towards generating more combo points, unless the mob will die before you can use one more ability. Illustrating with rank 5 FB with 5CPs; 35 energy FB: 817/35 = 23.34 damage per energy spent. 50 energy FB: (817+40.5)/50 = 17.15 damage per energy spent. 75 energy FB: (817+108)/75 = 12.33 damage per energy spent. 100 energy FB: (817+175.5) = 9.925 damage per energy spent. As you can see, the damage gained compared to the energy spent significantly diminishes the more energy you pool to use with FB. To go from 35 to 100 energy takes 3.25 ticks. As you need to wait for a whole tick to complete to gain energy, that pushes it to 4 ticks, or 8 seconds, to wait to pool to 100, with 15 energy 'wasted' by going over the 100 energy cap. That 8 seconds gains you 175.5 damage on your FB. Using the above example Druid, that's less bonus damage than 1 melee swing. Q3: Rip or FB? Short Answer: R2 Rip > R1 FB, otherwise FB if both skills are within one level of each other. Long Answer: Typically, a Rip requires all 6 ticks to do rougly equal damage to a FB before 4CP's, or 5 ticks to equal a 4+CP FB, until you get FB rank 3. Rip ticks every 2 seconds, isn't affected by mob armour and cannot crit. FB is affected by mob armour, but can crit, as a melee damage ability for 200% damage. From FB R2 - FB R4, FB remains demonstrably ahead. Rip Doesn't catch up again until R6/R5 comparison. It is important to remember R5 FB is leaned from a book and not available at server launch. Rip R2 vs FB R1; 1CP: 58/11 = 5.27 ticks to equal a 1CP FB. 2CP: 5.22 ticks to equal a 2CP FB. 3CP: 5.2 ticks to equal a 3CP FB. 4CP: 5.187 ticks to equal a 4CP FB. 5CP: 5.17 ticks to equal a 5CP FB. As you can see from the above, a R2 Rip will always need full duration to equal an equivalent CP FB. However, as you level, the gap closes. Rip R3 vs FB R2; 1CP: 91/15 = 6.066 ticks to equal a 1CP FB. 2CP: 6.25 ticks to equal a 2CP FB. 3CP: 6.33 ticks to equal a 3CP FB. 4CP: 6.38 ticks to equal a 4CP FB. 5CP: 6.41 ticks to equal a 5CP FB. Rip R4 vs FB R3; 1CP: 142/23 = 6.17 ticks to equal a 1CP FB. 2CP: 6.32 ticks to equal a 2CP FB. 3CP: 6.39 ticks to equal a 3CP FB. 4CP: 6.43 ticks to equal a 4CP FB. 5CP: 6.45 ticks to equal a 5CP FB. Rip R6 vs FB R5; 1CP: 229/45 = 5.088 ticks to equal a 1CP FB. 2CP: 5.15 ticks to equal a 2CP FB. 3CP: 5.17 ticks to equal a 3CP FB. 4CP: 5.19 ticks to equal a 4CP FB. 5CP: 5.20 ticks to equal a 5CP FB. The only times to prioritize Rip over FB is if a) You can't maintain melee range and need to back off to heal/bandage/LoS an ability (mainly PvP) b) Your opponent has huge amounts of armour, significantly reducing your physical damage dealt. In all other situations, a FB will give more damage in every fight that does not last more than 10 seconds. If the fight does last more than 10 seconds, Rip will do slightly more damage than the average 5 CP FB. If FB crits, it is always better than the equivalent CP Rip. The other important factor to bear in mine, is that as you level you get the skills at different levels, Rip usually being ~4 levels before FB. In these cases, the higher level Rip is usually the better choice. To illustrate; From level 36-39, Rip R3 vs FB R1; 1CP: 58/15 = 3.86 ticks to equal a 1CP FB. 2CP: 3.91 ticks to equal a 2CP FB. 3CP: 3.93 ticks to equal a 3CP FB. 4CP: 3.95 ticks to equal a 4CP FB. 5CP: 3.96 ticks to equal a 5CP FB. As you can see here, Rip only needs to tick 4 times (8 seconds) to do more damage than the equivalent CP FB non crit. TL:DR - Faerie Fire (Feral) > Ferocious Bite > Rip > Claw to 5 CP if Rip/FB are within one level of each other. This has been added to my main guide as an additional chapter. This post is merely for visibility.
  8. Mage Leveling Compendium Introduction Creating your character Stats explanation Leveling Builds Spells weights Leveling Zones and Spots Usefull Tips Introduction First of all, let me thank the dev team for such a wonderful work they are doing for us, I'm really appreciate this. While I was browsing other class threads, I was wondering why mages have no leveling information here at all, compared to others. Well, together, my intellectual brothers and sisters I believe we can make some experience sharing and makes this thing be completed, so any criticism, comments and additions are very welcome. Quickly about mage class, just fo newbies - we are using our mana to cast spells, we can wear only cloth amor, as weapons - staffs, one handed swords and daggers, shooting with wands. We have 3 main schools of magic - arcane, fire and frost. Well, it's almostly all for now, let's go further on our topics. Creating your character First we should speak about races in depths. Alliance have 2 choices: 1. Human Well, first, but not least, females here have a great look and animations of casting, you know You have Diplomacy which provides Reputation gains increased by 10%. , that can outbid everything other traits for some kind of people Also this race have Perception - 3 mins cooldown that Dramatically increases stealth detection for 20 sec. Maybe usefull in PvP for detecting rogues or druids aiming to gank you while leveling, not bad, but most of time worthless while leveling. Sword Specialization and Mace Specialization meaningless for us, because we never use our meele weapons for damage dealing ( only for lulz ), only for stats. And last racial trait is The Human Spirit Spirit increased by 5%. spirit increases mana and health regeneration rates, which have their advantage for human priests as they leveling with Spirit Tap and some kind of spirit gear but absolutly meaningless for human mages. Shines mostly of females and 10% rep increses 2. Gnome You will never see your epic gear on these little bastards In spite of this, they have some decent traits for mage : Expansive Mind Intelligence increased by 5%. Since Intellect is our primary stat - that's just decent. Arcane Resistance Arcane Resistance increased by 10. Well, worthless for leveling, but slightly increases your chance to be hit by arcane spells, and even Polymorphed by another mage, may save you in some sort of PvP encounters, as an another your trait Escape Artist Escape the effects of any immobilization or movement speed reduction effect. Also you have Engeneering Specialization Engineering skill increased by 15. which is great for PvP-oriented mages, since they defenitely wish to have that profession, due to it's profit. Great race for both PvP and PvE anyways. Horde also have 2 choices: 1. Undead Great look and animation both male and female. Also have some strong traits - Cannibalize When activated, regenerates 7% of total health every 2 sec for 10 sec. Only works on Humanoid or Undead corpses within 5 yds. Any movement, action, or damage taken while Cannibalizing will cancel the effect. 30% health over 10 secs. Combined with bandage will fullfill our needs at health restoration after combat, when you dont want to sit for eat and drink. Not bad, I'll say. Shadow Resistance Shadow Resistance increased by 10. Same as gnome, but can help you while PvP with warlocks and priests. Also I found mobs casting shadow school more often while leveling, rather arcane, so it's also helps slightly in PvE. Underwater Breathing Underwater breath lasts 300% longer than normal. Rise and shine, we have 4 mins for underwater encounters, compared to 1 min for other races, shines at few locations while leveling, do not underestimate it! Last but not least - Will of the Forsaken Provides immunity to Charm, Fear and Sleep while active. May also be used while already afflicted by Charm, Fear or Sleep. Lasts 5 sec. Hell, our bread and butter! 2 mins cooldown against mobs who fear or charm, against warlocks, priests, warriors. Shines both PvE and PvP, but mostly PvP ofc. 2. Troll Well, here we have nice tusks and following traits - Beast Slaying Damage dealt versus Beasts increased by 5%. Not bad, we will have some amount of beasts on our way to 60 and after Regeneration Health regeneration rate increased by 10%. 10% of total Health regeneration may continue during combat. Well, not bad to regeneartion our health, but since we have not much spirit (why even should we) and we have free food - not shiny at all trait. Berserking Increases your attack and casting speed by 10% to 30%. At full health the speed increase is 10% with a greatly effect up to 30% if you are badly hurt when you activate Berserker. Lasts 10 sec. Well, really nice trait with a 3 mins cooldown, allowing us to burst our target especially we have small health (seems to be 50% or less health to get that 30% casting speed bonus, but not tested! really apreciate if someone have more determinate values). Bow Specialization and Throwing Specialization is meaningless for us since we are mages. Best race for PvE as mage on Horde side. Stats Explanation 1. Strength. Increases attack power with melee weapons. Wothless for mage! 2. Agility. Increases attack power with arnged weapons. Improves chance to score a critical hit with all weapons. Increases armor and chance to dodge attacks. Well, we actually uses our ranged weapon - wands, and it's affected by agility, but it's profit really pity, due to primary mage stat, because you should only use your wand when OOM, not when grinding (hello wand-leveling priests ). 3. Stamina. Increases health points. Simply as it says! Just boosts your health points, nothing more! 4. Intellect. Increases mana points and chance to score a critical hit with spells. Increases the rate at which weapon skills improve. Our primary stat, in addition to obvious things like mana pool, spell crit, also provides us a faster skill leveling with wands and also our melee weapon (lol what ). 5. Spirit. Increases health and mana regeneration rates. Sounds good, but on practice - almost worthless. 6. Armor. Decrease the amount of damage taken from physical attacks. The amount of reduction is influenced be the level of the attacker. Well, we have really small amount of armor, due to we have some spells to increase it. Later on it. 7. Spell damage\School spell damage - secondary stat sometimes you may meet on gear. Very usefull, when you know what you doing, and worthless if you dont ( You think you do, but you don't joke there ). Later on it. An item that increases Damage done by Spells and Effects by 21 will not add 21 damage to all spells you cast. You have to look up the Spell-coefficient for our spells to see how much of your spelldamage will benefit the various spells. The theorycraft addon will actually show this while in-game, but for the sake of examples here are a few: 81.4% Frostbolt 100% Fireball 42.8% Fireblast 42.8% Scorch 14.3% Arcane Explosion So with the example of 21 spell damage increase, you only see the full 21 damage on fireballs. Every arcane explosion will do 3 more damage to each target affected (which adds up ofcourse since it may affect many targets at once). 8. Spell hit chance - another secondary stat, you will almost never meet this on equipment while leveling, and since it's leveling and not raiding guide - what the heck is this thing doing there? As a caster you will -always- have 1% chance to miss with your spells. But also the level difference between you and your target adds further chances to miss. Difference in levels between you and your target (EP = Elemental precision talent in frost tree): Same level = 4% chance to miss. 3% chance to Hit is needed for cap. With EP 1\3 = 2% chance to miss, with EP 2\3 = 1% chance to miss 1 level = 5% chance to miss. 4% chance to Hit is needed for cap. With EP 1\3 = 3% chance to miss, with EP 2\3 = 1% chance to miss 2 levels = 6% chance to miss. 5% chance to Hit is needed for cap. With EP 1\3 = 4% chance to miss, with EP 2\3 = 2% chance to miss, with EP 3\3 = 1% chance to miss 3 levels = 17% chance to miss. 16% chance to Hit is needed for cap. With EP 1\3 = 15% chance to miss, with EP 2\3 = 13% chance to miss, with EP 3\3 = 11% chance to miss Imho, optimal for leveling is go 2\3 EP, you will have only 1% difference chance to miss compared to 3\3, but this is a talent point that can be spent somewhere else. 9. Spell crit chance - another secondary stat, you will almost never meet this on equipment while leveling, but you sometime can get it from talents, which is really nice in some sort of builds. Stat Priority for AoE-oriented leveling builds : Intellect -> Stamina -> Spell damage\School spell damage -> Spirit - > Agility -> Strenght(just for lulz) Stat Priority for Single Target leveling builds : Spell damage\School spell damage -> Intellect -> Stamina -> Spirit -> Agility -> Strenght(just for lulz) Leveling Builds There is 2 school based builds (fire or frost based) since arcane tree provides more utility, than damage-oriented talents and 2 gameplay specific builds (AoE-oriented and Single Target oriented) which depends on personal preferences. So what tree should we choose? Well, it's all depends on your playstyle, but let me make a quick research: So, whatever talent tree you choose, you will spam Fireball or Frostbolt most of time, if going through quests\single target oriented builds. This is a raw untalented comparison of these two abilities: DPM - is damage per mana point - this is very important characteristic while leveling, way more importat than DPS of current spell, since it's showing us how much casts you can do before going OOM and what profit you will have from it. As you can see fireball is slightly above frostbolt, but it's damage also includes small, 5 to 10%, dot part. While leveling you dont wanna see 3,6,8sec dot go away, you just spamming fireball. Second characteristic here - DPMPS - damage per mana point per second - yeah, it's DPS per mana point in other words. Frostbolt is slightly above here, due to 0.5sec less cast time, than fireball. Also, notice that frostbolt have that 40% (50% with 3\3permafrost) speed reduction, that means melee mobs will reach you slower, rather if you were casting Fireball, giving you may be a one or even two free casts above fireball. Summarizing all above, I suggest a Frost tree as a single target spamable way to go. But, again, all is up to your playstyle! FROST AOE GRINDING BUILDS 1. The Deep in Frost-We-Trust build Level 20 http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#oZZMhMhz Let's seek on talent's we have : Level 30 http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#oZZMhMusfz Level 40 http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#oZZMhMGsftho 30-33 Improved Cone of Cold 3 points. Just busts the damage of CoC by 35%. In this build you must use this ones after 2-3 Blizzards to kill mobs, since we have 3\3 Imp Blizz our CoC will not overwrite snare of Imp Blizz. Be aware! 34 2\3 Piercing Ice. Just a filler. 35-39 5\5 Shatter. Combine with our Improved CoC and nova. Not bad at all to crit diying mobs. 40 Ice barrier. Gives us a survivability and kind of debuff protection) PvP-realm version of this Build Level 40 http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#oZZMIMhRftho Explanation: We just have 2\3 Blizzard there to make our CoC overwrite snare debuff on target. Also we have much points in Ice Shards. 2. Fire Shatter Combo Build Level 40 http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#oZZVhMGoftho Frost Single Target build Well, this build is both great for PvP and single target PvE encounters, especially on a fresh servers, because we have, finally, hated in AoE builds - Frostbite! Frostbite gives our chill effects chance of 15% to Freez the target for 5sec, which combine in death-crits with Shatter and Ice Shards. For this build you should always trying to abuse that +frost spell damage with some sort of equip like ...of Frozen Wrath, Azure Silk, etc. The reason is that your frostbolt will have 81.4% of bonus spell damage as it is single target spell. Level 20 http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#oZZcfh Level 30 http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#oZZciG000t 21-22 Ice Shards 5\5 22-24 Improved Frost Nova 2\2 - unlock to Shatter 24-29 Shatter 5\5 - Greatly improvement to our crit chance. Works perfect with nova and frostbite proc. 30 Iceblock - Just for suvival moments Level 40 http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#oZZViGoobtho 31-32 Arctic Reach - nice and usefull 32-34 Improved Frostbolt 5\5 - Makes our FB(rank1) 1 sec cast, and our current FB rank - 2.5 sec cast. 35-37 Improved CoC - actually situationable, I just prefer it for PvP realms. CoC is not that mana efficient, so you wanna use it jsut in some sort of extreme situations. 38 Cold Snap - decent utility. Reason it's late is because it has a big CD and you should use it only in extreme situations. 39 Permafrost 1\3 - Just a little snare improvement and a filler 40 Ice barrier - Obvious Level 50 http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#of0cZZViGoRbtho 41-42 Improved Blizzard 2\3 - Just for rank 1 Blizz in PvP situations ( since every Blizz tick can proc Frostbite) Rest talents just go in Arcane tree, or for your choice. I really recommend go to Arcane Concentration and Arcane Meditation talents, since we have no Frost Channeling. Level 60 http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#of0qcocZZViGoRbtho -------------------------------- Update section -------------------------------- 12.01.16 Added update section, just to let you know when I'm adding something new 12.02.16 Added bonus spell damage and spell hit chance information. Added explanation of frost single target spec. LATER ON COMPENDIUM: Frost 40 to 60 talents, Frost Single Target build, Fire builds, etc Spells weights Leveling Zones and Spots Usefull Tips I'm just started to fill this(It's a great amount of job, though - trying to stick all together), but fill free to comment\share you expirience on leveling here (epecially on fire build, i'm not to invovled in it)! To be continued =)
  9. _________ THE ARROW AND YOU _________ Here is a few guidelines/tips/tricks you can use in order to improve yourself as a Hunter in vanilla. If you feel the need to chime in and cover some ground, of which I'm sure that I've missed, feel free to do so! I’m open minded for all questions and suggestions regarding the guide and I will gladly hear them out. You can contact me on Crestfall's discord channel or on Crestfall's forum via PM's or by commenting on this thread. Table Of Contents 1. Main Attributes & Stat Values 1.1 Main Attributes 1.2 Stat Values 2. BIS Gear & Enchants 2.1 Horde BIS List - Current Patch 2.2 Alliance BIS List - Current Patch 3. Consumables & Buffs 3.1 World Buffs 3.2 Damage Increasing Consumables & Buffs 3.3 Damage Increasing Pet Consumables & Buffs 3.4 Sustainability Consumables & Buffs 3.5 Situational Consumables & Buffs 4. Races & Racial Abilities 4.1 Racial Stats 4.2 Racial Abilities 4.3 Race Of Choice 5. Talent Builds 5.1 Recommended Talent Builds 5.2 Experimental Talent Builds 6. Pets & Pet Abilities 6.1 Pet Of Choice 6.2 Pet Abilities 7. Rotations & Cooldowns 7.1 Simplified Rotation 7.2 Explanation Of The Hunter Rotations 7.3 "Cycles Are Impossible To Use" 7.4 Lag And Human Reaction Invalidate Cycle Calculations 7.5 Aimed Shot Will Be Catching Up To Your Multi-Shot 7.6 Cooldown Management 8. Addons 9. Macros 10. Links & Downloads _________ MAIN ATTRIBUTES & STAT VALUES _________ 1.1 - Main Attributes Agility Increases attack power with melee weapons by 1 and ranged weapons by 2 Increases your crit chance by 0.0189% (1% crit per 52.91 Agility) Increases Armor by 2 and Dodge by 0,0377% (1% dodge per 26.5 Agility) Strength Increases attack power with melee weapons by 1. Stamina Increases health points by 10 per point. Intellect Increases mana points by 15 per point and the rate at which weapon skills improve. Spirit Increases health & mana regeneration rates. 1.2 - Stat Values The stat values below will differentiate depending on your current stats, talents and target defensive stats so because of that I've made 4 examples that you can use. The examples are all specced as 20/31/00 and are fully buffed except for world buffs and shaman/paladin buffs. The gear can be viewed in the spreadsheet linked in the BIS section. The target is a lvl 63 dragonkin mob type with 5 sunder armor debuffs. Patch 1.5 BIS (T1) 10 AP = 1.38 DPS 1 Crit = 3.72 DPS 1 Crit = 26.95 AP 1 AP = 0,0371% Crit Patch 1.9 BIS (T2) 10 AP = 1.44 DPS 1 Crit = 4.58 DPS 1 Crit = 31.80 AP 1 AP = 0,0349% Crit Patch 1.9 BIS (R13) 10 AP = 1.44 DPS 1 Crit = 4.67 DPS 1 Crit = 32.43 AP 1 AP = 0,0308% Crit Patch 1.12 BIS (T3 + R12 Gloves) 10 AP = 1.37 DPS 1 Crit = 4.8 DPS 1 Crit = 35,03 AP 1 AP = 0,0285% Crit I've used the hunter simulator spreadsheet linked in the "Links & Downloads" section to get these results, using the exact same method as Surelynotdhorn did _________ BIS GEAR & ENCHANTS _________ This BIS list is based on Crestfall's item progression which isn't completely like retail vanilla, so because of that I've included some items to the earlier patches (Almost only pre 1.5) that other private servers tend to release before their original release date because most likely it'll be the same for Crestfall (Not 100% confirmed yet, I will update whenever I know more). These are the items which has been included for patches prior to their original release (The patches in parentheses are their original release date): Blackstone Ring (Patch 1.2) Carapace Spine Crossbow (Patch 1.4) Peacemaker (Patch 1.4) Brutality Blade (Patch 1.4) Quick Strike Ring (Patch 1.4) Core Hound Tooth (Patch 1.4) Biznicks 247x128 Accurascope (Patch 1.4) Rune of the Guard Captain (Patch 1.5) Devilsaur Eye (Patch 1.7) Epic PvP gear will not be considered because it's extremely time consuming to get and not everyone have the time needed to be able to grind it however the post-rework PvP set is BIS until Naxxramas. Link to the pre-rework PvP set Link to the post-rework PvP set 2.1 - Horde BIS List - Current Patch Link to Horde BIS list spreadsheet (Patch 1.1 - 1.12) 2.2 - Alliance BIS List - Current Patch Link to Alliance BIS list spreadsheet (Patch 1.1 - 1.12) _________ CONSUMABLES & BUFFS _________ Let's face it, it's not expensive to raid as a hunter since we have feign death to save our buffs if the raid wipes, so there's no reason to go cheap on consumables. Here's all the consumables & buffs that are useful to hunters. (Class buffs not included) 3.1 - World Buffs Rallying Cry of the Dragonslayer +10% Spell Crit, +5% Melee/Ranged Crit, +140 AP - 120 min Songflower Serenade +15 all stats, +5% Spell/Melee/Ranged Crit - 60 min Resist Fire +83 Fire Resistance - 60 min Warchief's Blessing +300 HP, +15% Melee Haste, +10 MP5 - 60 min (Horde only) DM North Buffs (DM Tribute) +15% Max HP, +200 AP (Does not give RAP... cuz vanilla being vanilla), +3% Spell Crit - 120 min (Patch 1.3) Sayge's Fortunes (Darkmoon Faire) Choose between +10% Damage/+10% Agi, Int, Spirit, Stam or Str/+10% armor/+25 magic resist - 120 min (Patch 1.6) Spirit of Zandalar +10% Movement Speed, +15% Stats - 120 min (Patch 1.7 - Persists through death up until patch 1.11) Lordaeron's Blessing +5% Max HP - 30 min (Patch 1.11) Traces of Silithyst +5% Damage 30 min (Patch 1.12) 3.2 - Damage Increasing Consumables & Buffs Elixir of the Mongoose +25 Agility, +2% Crit - 60 min (Does not stack with other agility elixirs/scrolls) Ground Scorpok Assay +25 Agility - 60 min Grilled Squid +10 Agility - 10 Min Oil of Immolation Inflicts fire damage to any enemies around the caster every 3 seconds - 15 sec (Scales with spell power up until patch 1.6) Crystal Charge / Stratholme Holy Water (Undeads only) Inflicts fire/raw damage to enemies that are hit - 3/10 radius Engineers only: Dense Dynamite / Thorium Grenade / The Big One / Dark Iron Bomb Inflicts fire damage to enemies that are hit - 5/3/10/5 radius, 0/3/5/4 stun duration Goblin Sapper Charge Explodes when triggered dealing Fire damage to all enemies nearby and damage to you as well - 10 radius 3.3 - Damage Increasing Pet Consumables & Buffs Juju Might +40 AP - 10 min (Does not give RAP... cuz vanilla being vanilla) Juju Power +30 Strength - 30 min Juju Flurry +3% Attack Speed on friendly target - 20 sec (Puts Rapid Fire on a 30 sec CD if used on yourself) Scroll of Agility IV +17 Agility - 30 min 3.4 - Sustainability Consumables & Buffs Demonic Rune / Dark Rune Restores 900 to 1501 mana at the cost of 600 to 1001 life - (Does not share CD with potions) Whipper Root Tuber Restores 700 to 901 health - (Does not share CD with potions) Night Dragon's Breath Restores 394 to 457 mana and 394 to 457 health - (Does not share CD with potions) Major Mana Potion Restores 1350 to 2251 mana - (Does not share CD with runes/felwood consumables) Major Healing Potion Restores 1050 to 1751 health - (Does not share CD with runes/felwood consumables) Major Rejuvenation Potion Restores 1440 to 1761 mana and health - (Patch 1.4, Does not share CD with runes/felwood consumables) Mageblood Potion +12 mp5 - 60 min Nightfin Soup +10 mp5 - 10 min Crystal Force +30 Spirit - 30 min Lesser Mana Oil +5 mp5 - 30 min Brilliant Mana Oil +12 mp5, +25 Healing Power - 30 min (Patch 1.7) Spirit of Zanza +50 Stamina, +50 Spirit - 120 min (Patch 1.7, you can only have the effect of one Zanza potion at a time) Flask of the Titans +1200 Max HP - 120 min (Does not stack with other flasks, persists through death) Flask of Distilled Wisdom +2000 Max Mana - 120 min (Does not stack with other flasks, persists through death) Rumsey Rum Black Label +15 Stamina - 15 min Elixir of Fortitude +120 Max HP - 60 min Heavy Runecloth Bandage Heals 2000 damage over 8 sec 3.5 - Situational Consumables & Buffs Limited Invulnerability Potion Makes you immune to physical attacks - 6 sec Restorative Potion Removes 1 magic, curse, poison or disease effect on you every 5 sec - 30 sec Free Action Potion Makes you immune to Stun and Movement Impairing effects - 30 sec (Does not remove effects already on the imbiber) Living Action Potion Makes you immune to Stun and Movement Impairing effects - 5 sec (Does remove effects already on the imbiber) Elixir of Poison Resistance / Powerful Anti-Venom Cures level 60 poisons Juju Chill +15 Frost Resistance - 10 min Juju Ember +15 Fire Resistance - 10 min Swiftness of Zanza +20% Movement Speed - 120 min (Patch 1.7, you can only have the effect of one Zanza potion at a time, does not stack with Aspect of the Cheetah) Swiftness Potion +50% Movement Speed - 15 sec (Does not stack with Aspect of the Cheetah) Greater Arcane Protection Potion Absorbs 1950 to 3251 arcane damage - 60 min Greater Fire Protection Potion Absorbs 1950 to 3251 fire damage - 60 min Greater Frost Protection Potion Absorbs 1950 to 3251 frost damage - 60 min Greater Nature Protection Potion Absorbs 1950 to 3251 nature damage - 60 min Greater Shadow Protection Potion Absorbs 1950 to 3251 shadow damage - 60 min _________ RACES & RACIAL ABILITIES _________ This section will be covering all relevant information about the races that can be played as a Hunter. 4.1 - Racial Stats 4.2 - Racial Abilities Dwarf: Stoneform: While active, grants immunity to Bleed, Poison, and Disease effects. In addition, Armor increased by 10%. Lasts 8 sec. 3 min cooldown. Gun Specialization: Guns skill increased by 5. Frost Resistance: Frost Resistance increased by 10. Find Treasure: Allows the dwarf to sense nearby treasure, making it appear on the minimap. Night Elf: Shadowmeld: Activate to slip into the shadows, reducing the chance for enemies to detect your presence. Lasts until cancelled or upon moving. Night Elf Rogues and Druids with Shadowmeld are more difficult to detect while stealthed or prowling. Quickness: Dodge chance increased by 1%. Wisp Spirit: Transform into a wisp upon death, increasing speed by 50%. Nature Resistance: Nature Resistance increased by 10. Orc: Blood Fury: Increases base melee attack power by 25% for 15 sec and reduces healing effects on you by 50% for 25 sec. 2 min cooldown. Hardiness: Chance to resist Stun effects increased by an additional 25%. Command: Damage done by Hunter and Warlock pets increased by 5%. Axe Specialization: Skill with Axes and Two-Handed Axes increased by 5. Tauren: War Stomp: Stuns up to 5 enemies within 8 yds for 2 sec. 2 min cooldown. Endurance: Total Health increased by 5%. Cultivation: Herbalism skill increased by 15. Nature Resistance: Nature Resistance increased by 10. Troll: Berserking: Increases your casting and attack speed by 10% to 25% (30% after patch 1.9). At full health the speed increase is 10% with a greater effect up to 25% if you are badly hurt when you activate Berserking. Lasts 10 sec. 3 min cooldown. Regeneration: Health regeneration rate increased by 10%. 10% of total Health regeneration may continue during combat. Beast Slaying: Damage dealt versus Beasts increased by 5%. Throwing/Bow Specialization: Skill with Throwing/Bow Weapons increased by 5 (This will make you hit capped at 6 hit instead of 9 if you got a bow equipped) 4.3 - Race Of Choice Horde PvE race ranking: Troll - Berserking is a great DPS increase especially when synergized with activate trinkets and other CD's, Bow Specialization makes hit capped with 6 hit instead of 9. Regeneration and Beast Slaying are also decent racial abilities however they will be little of a use once you hit level 60. Trolls has the most base agility on the Horde faction. Orc - Command is a small DPS increase. Occasionally Hardiness will have it's use in PvE as well. Orcs has the second most base agility on the Horde faction. Tauren - There's no racial abilities that will benefit you in PvE when playing a tauren other than Endurance. Taurens has the lowest base agility on the Horde faction. Horde PvP race ranking: Orc - Hardiness this talent alone makes orcs the best PvP race for Horde. Command is a small DPS increase. Orcs has the second most base agility on the Horde faction. Troll & Tauren - These races are tied because nor trolls or taurens have any significant racial abilities for PvP however trolls favors the offensive playstyle more because of the better DPS racial abilities and taurens favors the more "all around" playstyle since they have more health and a 2 sec stun with 0.5 sec cast time. Trolls has the most base agility on the Horde faction. Taurens has the lowest base agility on the Horde faction. Alliance PvE race ranking: Night Elf - There isn't really any of the racial abilities that night elves has which will benefit you in PvE, the only reason why night elves are better in PvE is because night elves has the most base agility on the Alliance faction. Dwarf - There isn't really any of the racial abilities that dwarfs has which will benefit you in PvE. Gun Specialization isn't good because even when considering it then there won't be any gun that can become best in slot, Stoneform isn't good either because there's barely any boss mechanics where it's useful. Dwarfs has the lowest base agility on the Alliance faction. Alliance PvP race ranking: Dwarf - Stoneform is extremely good in PvP since it can be used to get rid of Blind, Crippling Poison, Viper Sting etc. as well as make you more tankier vs physical damage. Dwarfs has the lowest base agility on the Alliance faction. Night Elf - Shadowmeld is a really nice racial ability for when you're defending bases in BG's so you're able to secure the opener on a enemy player that gets in range of you etc. it has a lot of other great uses and it's a lot of fun to figure out ways to utilize this ability. Night elves has the most base agility on the Alliance faction. _________ TALENT BUILDS _________ 5.1 - Recommended Talent Builds PvE: 1. http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#cZViohthtIbbV0h Use this spec if you're at 8 hit or below. You can swap talent points from Surefooted to Improved Aspect of the Hawk if you're only missing 1-2% hit. 2. http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#ce0M0xxZViohtht Use this spec if you're at 9 hit or above PvP: For PvP it's a bit of a personal preference, however these are the ones I can recommend 1. http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#cZgVohthtcbimoh 2. http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#cZtVohtZcbiik0ux I highly recommend moving the points from Improved Wing Clip into Entrapment if you're going to play premade BG's as it will benefit you a lot more. Leveling: For leveling it's bit of a personal preference, however this is the spec I can recommend http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#ca0GztxRttVohx I didn't put points into Spirit Bond because this talent will give the hunter threat every time it heals so if your pet miss pulls a mob then the Hunter will get aggro whenever the talent heals. 5.2 - Experimental Talent Builds PvE 00/21/30 vs 20/31/00 when above 500 agility: On paper the 20/31/00 spec seems to be doing a lot better however in reality there will be some fights where you won't be able to utilize your pets' DPS properly as well as other situational stuff in which case the 00/21/30 spec could potentially be better even when considering the DPS Trueshot Aura provides for your group when using the 20/31/00 spec. I'm gonna have to test this once I get the gear requirements on Crestfall to be able to confirm anything. Keep in mind that mentioning results from other servers will not prove anything since talent and ability formulas etc could've been completely different on the other server. _________ PETS & PET ABILITIES _________ 6.1 - Pet Of Choice Short answer: Lupos for PvE, Broken Tooth for PvP. PVE: Lupos is the best PvE pet because it does Shadow Damage instead of Physical Damage, thus ignoring armor and will benefit from +Shadow Damage debuffs such as Curse of Shadows, Improved Shadow Bolt and Shadow Weaving. After patch 1.9 you should instead be using Deathmaw if you want a wolf or Broken Tooth if you want a cat because Lupos will no longer be doing Shadow Damage after that patch. Something you often will hear people say about Lupos is that "it will lower your raids DPS because it consumes Warlock's Improved Shadow Bolt debuffs" however that is completely nonsense even if Lupos truly should be consuming ISB (I haven't seen a single proof of Lupos consuming ISB in retail vanilla so please share if you have proof) due to various reasons: "Threat cap" Warlocks are able to do insane amounts of DPS however with insane amounts of DPS comes insane amounts of threat. This is something that Warlocks have no way of dealing with, instead they're forced into stop DPS'ing so that the tanks can build a bigger threat lead. Hunters do not have this issue because we're not able to do anywhere near as much DPS/threat as a Warlock and because we can Feign Death every 30 seconds to wipe our threat. Even if Warlocks didn't utilize ISB at all they would still have threat issues if they go all in on DPS. So if they were to utilize ISB it would only make them "threat capped" faster, thus sharing ISB with Hunters will be far more effective for the raid. Not to mention that tanks occasionally will die/fail on boss mechanics or other situational events which will tighten the Warlocks threat cap even further. So in reality Warlocks wont be getting any additional DPS from ISB unless they're fighting a boss where they can't get aggro (Ragnaros, Ebonroc and Flamegore etc). This might only be legit for Horde Warlocks due to them not being able to benefit from Blessing of Salvation like Alliance Warlocks can. This is also the sole reason as to why Alliance Warlocks are doing so much more DPS on legacy-logs.com and realmplayers.com. Debuff overlapping If Hunters aren't using Lupos then Warlocks and Shadow Priest's Mind Blast will be the only classes who are able to utilize ISB, thus being much more likely to overlap ISB stacks and make them go to waste. ISB isn't the only debuff which Lupos can utilize There's 3 debuffs that Lupos can utilize; Improved Shadow Bolt, Curse of Shadow and Shadow Weaving so by using Lupos it will make all of these debuffs more effective. If Lupos is being fully buffed and it's target has all of these debuffs then it is able to do 180-200 DPS on it's own which is absolutely insane. PVP: Broken Tooth is the best PvP pet, and potentially the best PvE pet after patch 1.9. The reason why Broken Tooth is the best PvP pet is because it's the only cat that is able to do 1 attack per sec, which is the fastest you can get. The fast attack speed is very useful in PvP as it makes it nearly impossible for casters to get a spell off because of the cast time push back from Broken Tooth's melee attacks. There's only 2 other pets in the game which has similar attack speed and that is the ZG bat's, however since they're bats they cannot learn Prowl and Claw which both are great abilities in PvP and bats also does 4% less damage from auto attacks. When Lupos no longer does Shadow Damage (post patch 1.9), then Broken Tooth can potentially be the superior pet to use in PvE depending on how good you are at pet micro managing. Broken Tooth (Cats) do not have Furious Howl like Wolfs do which means you can no longer benefit from having your pet by your side just to buff you with Furious Howl, so you'll need to be great at micro managing your pet and make sure it doesn't die as well as not fuck up your own rotation. If you're not capable of that, then Broken Tooth will not be a DPS boost. Leveling: Use any cat for leveling, it doesn't matter which one because they're all be normalized, i.e. all pets of the same pet family does similar DPS regardless of attack speed (unless they're buffed, which in that case fast attack speed pets does more DPS). Also make sure to tame a new cat every now and then so you can get new pet ability ranks. Use the hunter pet beastiary linked in the "Informative Hunter Links" section to figure out which pets you should tame to get new pet ability ranks. 6.2 - Pet Abilities PVE: 1. Teach your pet max rank Bite and Claw/Furious Howl. 2. Teach your pet max rank Great Stamina. 3. Teach your pet rank 3 resistance. Choose the resistance that would benefit you for the content you're currently raiding. 4. Teach your pet rank 1 Dash (You do not need higher rank for raiding) 5. If done correctly you should now have 5 points left, use them on any rank 1 resistance you want or whatever else you can spend it on. PVP: 1. Teach your pet max rank Bite, Claw and Prowl. 2. Teach your pet rank 9 Great Stamina. 3. Teach your pet rank 3 Frost Resistance. 4. Teach your pet rank 3 Dash. 5. Teach your pet rank 1 Nature Resist. Leveling: Assuming you're using a Cat for leveling which I highly recommend, then this is the priority of which you should be teaching your pet it's abilities. 1. Growl 2. Dash (Only need rank 1) 3. Claw 4. Bite 5. Greater Stamina/Natural Armor _________ ROTATIONS & COOLDOWNS _________ 7.1 - Simplified Rotation Auto-shot->Aimed Shot->Auto-shot->Multi-Shot->Auto-shot->Repeat See the pattern? Always use Aimed Shot immediately after you've fired an Auto-shot, weave Multi-Shot in between Auto-shots. 7.2 - Explanation Of The Hunter Rotations There's 2 rotations that you should know of. These are known as the "Clipped" and the "Full" rotation. Every rotation cycle consists roughly of: 1 Aimed Shot 1 Multi-Shot x Auto Shot With most weapons, you'll find that Aimed Shot finishes cooldown and Auto Shot fired ~1 sec ago. This makes you choose between: A. (Clipped) Use Aimed Shot right when its cooldown is finished. B. (Full) Delay Aimed Shot until after your next Auto Shot. A. (Clipped) makes you lose an Auto Shot, but your cycle time is shorter than in B. B. (Full) adds an Auto Shot, but extends your cycle time. This is important because the cooldown of Aimed Shot is 6 seconds, casting time is 3 seconds. During casting, Auto Shot cools down. This means that basically every weapon will get a free Auto Shot after Aimed Shot. The free Auto Shot comes after a delay of about 0.5 seconds after Aimed Shot is fired, regardless of weapon speed. During the casting of Aimed Shot, no Auto Shots can be fired. This list will tell you what rotation you should use for all end game weapons, the list is also sorted from best to worst: http://imgur.com/I1Mk8Xw You can read a far more in depth explanation of clipped vs full rotation here and here 7.3 - "Cycles Are Impossible To Use" They're not. Performing them perfectly is practically impossible, and it's harder with some weapons. However, getting as close as possible will be the most damaging thing you can do. Thus, the calculations shows the weapon with highest damage potential, and also how to deal the most damage with it. It's up to you to maximize the potential. Practice, focus, and knowing the rhythm of your weapon helps a lot; you're always able to improve. Additionally, a timer for your Auto Shots will help you a lot. Personally, I use YAHT. Clipped cycles are the easiest to use, since you can basically spam Aimed Shot and Multi-Shot, and the cooldowns will take care of the rest. Remember that latency might affect this a bit, making Aimed Shot ready just before Auto Shot fires (making you do a sub-optimal cycle). Spamming is rarely a good idea; paying attention is. 7.4 - Lag And Human Reaction Invalidate Cycle Calculations Often you'll hear people claiming cycles are useless because of reasons like lag, human reaction, etc. These settings vary from person to person; hunter A might have perfect conditions, performing at almost 100% of what he's capable of, while hunter B might be experiencing lag, talking on the phone and feeding his parrot - of course he'll perform worse. However, comparing the different weapons, using optimal conditions for everything is the fairest comparison. Although this has no influence on a weapon's damage potential, if you know you suffer from lag or slow reaction times, take it into consideration when looking at what I write. 7.5 - Aimed Shot Will Be Catching Up To Your Multi-Shot Eventually your Aimed Shot will catch up to your Multi-Shot due to Aimed Shot having "9 sec CD" (6 CD + ~3 sec cast time) and Multi-Shot having a 10 sec CD. When this happens then using Aimed Shot first will yield the most DPS, unless: A. You're able to consistently cleave on targets with Multi-Shot. B. The targets you could've been cleaving on by casting Multi-Shot first would be dead by the time Multi-Shot is ready if you casted Aimed Shot first. 7.6 - Cooldown Management Trinkets: You should activate your swap trinket just as you start DPSing the boss and when the trinket effect wears off then you swap to your static trinket immediately. Rapid Fire/Berserking: Usually you want to use Rapid Fire/Berserking together with your trinket on your opener unless you need to save your cooldowns for a specific boss mechanic. However using Rapid Fire/Berserking early has the added benefit of you being able to use them multiple times during an encounter depending on the fight duration. Do not save Rapid Fire/Berserking for Aspect of the Hawk procs since there's literally no reason in doing so when there's only a 5% proc chance. If you're lucky to get a hawk proc while all your other cooldowns are active then make sure you watch your threat so you don't over aggro. _________ ADDONS _________ YAHT - Yet Another Hunter Timer This addon gives you an auto shot timer which is crucial if you want to maximize your DPS. It also comes with a Tranquilizing Shot announcer which can be toggle on and off. Highlights: 1. Aimed Shot & Multishot castbars for oCB, eCastingBar and default castbar that recognize all effects that modify castspeed 2. Tranquilizing Shot announcer 3. Highly customizable looks Visual: The white bar is the "cooldown" time of your auto shot The red bar is the draw time of your auto shot Configuration: /yaht Download Link: https://github.com/Aviana/YaHT ------ TrinketMenu (Fixed Version) This addon lets you queue trinkets to auto swap for whenever you get out of combat (Feign Death) and is a must have addon if you want to maximize your DPS. How to use TrinketMenu: Have an activate trinket equipped at the start of an encounter, use it on your opener and then queue a static trinket by hovering TrinketMenu and choose a static trinket - after the activate trinket's buff expires you feign death and the addon will auto equip the static trinket that you selected. Visual: Configuration: /trinketmenu options Download Link: https://github.com/satan666/TrinketMenu-Fix ------ SHunterTimers This addon makes it easier for you to track your trinket duration, debuff durations, procs, personal CC duration and boss frenzy timer it also makes your cast bar track aimed shot. Every feature can be enabled/disabled through the in game settings. Visual: Configuration: /sht menu Download Link: http://addons.us.to/addon/shuntertimers ------ ClassicSnowFall This addon accelerates key bindings so that they are activated by key press rather than key release. This allows you to activate your abilities faster than you could otherwise. there's no visual or in game configurations options for this addon. Download Link: http://www.classicwow.com/forum/topic/13899-introducing-classic-snowfall/ ------ Modified Power Auras This addon is the vanilla version of "WeakAuras" which makes it possible to track every aura/ability/trinket in the game. Examples of what to track: Aspect of the Hawk procs Rapid Fire duration Trinket(s) duration Important boss debuffs such as Baron Geddon's Living Bomb, Vaelastrasz's Burning Adrenaline. Visual: Configuration: /mpowa Download Link: https://github.com/Geigerkind/ModifiedPowerAuras ------ SimpleFeignHealth This addon makes it possible for you to see your health while you're in feign death. Configuration: /sfh Download Link: http://addons.us.to/addon/simplefeignhealth _________ MACROS _________ Auto Shot This macro makes it so your auto shot no longer can be accidentally toggled off. it WILL NOT WORK properly if this line doesn't correspond with your Auto Shot hotkey: IsAutoRepeatAction(3) If your Auto Shot ability is placed on hotkey 3, that means it should be (3) in the macro. To figure out what hotkey your Auto Shot is on, refer to this image http://i.imgur.com/VGArn.jpg and change it accordingly within the macro. /run if not IsAutoRepeatAction(3) then CastSpellByName("Auto Shot") end ------ Scatter Shot This macro will prevent your pet from breaking Scatter Shot CC. If you use the Scatter Shot macro on target A and your pet is attacking target B, your pet will continue to attack target B. If you use the Scatter Shot macro on target A and your pet is attacking target A, your pet will go passive so it doesn't break Scatter Shot CC. /script if UnitExists("pettarget") and UnitIsUnit("target", "pettarget") then PetPassiveMode(); else end /cast Scatter Shot ------ Frost, Immolation and Explosive Trap This macro will prevent you from using feign death if you're already out of combat but if you're in combat it will feign death first and then trap if pressed twice. Simply change the first line of the macro to whatever trap you want it for. /cast Immolation Trap /script if UnitAffectingCombat("player") then CastSpellByName("Feign Death") end ------ Freezing Trap This macro will prevent you from using feign death if you're already out of combat but if you're in combat it will feign death first and then trap if pressed twice. In addition to the other trap macro, this one will put your pet on passive to prevent breaking CC. /cast Freezing Trap /script if UnitAffectingCombat("player") then CastSpellByName("Feign Death") end /script PetPassiveMode() ------ Revive/Mend Pet This macro will use Revive Pet if your pet is dead and Mend Pet if your pet is alive. /script if not UnitExists(“pet”) then CastSpellByName(“Revive Pet”); else if UnitIsDead(“pet”) then CastSpellByName(“Revive Pet”);else CastSpellByName(“Mend Pet”);end;end ------ Call/Dismiss Pet This macro will use Call Pet if your pet is missing and Dismiss Pet if your pet is already called. /script if PetCanBeAbandoned() then CastSpellByName(“Dismiss Pet”) else CastSpellByName(“Call Pet”);end ------ Melee Attacks This is just a basic macro to lump all of your offensive melee skills onto one bind. /cast Raptor Strike /cast Counterattack /cast Mongoose Bite ------ Wing Clip This is a fall-through macro for Wing Clip. If you happen to be super low on mana for some reason and can't use maximum rank Wing Clip, a lower rank will be used instead. Counterattack is a priority over all ranks of Wing Clip. /run if 1==0 then CastSpellByName("Wing Clip");end /cast Counterattack(Rank 1) /cast Wing Clip /cast Wing Clip(Rank 2) /cast Wing Clip(Rank 1) ------ Hunter Tracking This macro will use Track Beasts if you hold down CTRL and press the hotkey you bound it to, Track Humanoids if you hold down SHIFT + press hotkey and Track Hidden if no modifiers are held down when pressing the hotkey. These are the only important tracking abilities that you should have bound, the rest you can leave in your spell book. Track Beasts is useful to track down Druid flag carriers in BGs, Track Humanoids to track down players, and Track Hidden to increase your stealth detection. /script c=CastSpellByName if IsControlKeyDown() then c("Track Beasts"); else if IsShiftKeyDown() then c("Track Humanoids"); else c("Track Hidden");end;end ------ Nefarian Hunter Class Call First of all, this macro will require you to have 2 ranged weapons, 1 equipped and 1 in bag slot 1. All this macro does is to equip the ranged weapon which is in bag slot 1, this will be useful versus Nefarian because of the hunter class call mechanic that will break our current equipped weapon, however we have no way of knowing if its gonna be our class call or others. So switching to a secondary ranged weapon before the class call timer hits will put us out of risk for our main weapon to break, meanwhile were still able to DPS. /script SpellStopCasting() /run local p,s="player",18 if GetInventoryItemLink(p,s)then PickupContainerItem(0,1)EquipCursorItem(s)end ------ One button Viper/Scorpid Sting This macro will use Viper Sting if the target is a mana class, if its not then it'll use Scorpid Sting instead. /script if UnitPowerType(“target”)==0 then CastSpellByName(“Viper Sting”) else CastSpellByName(“Scorpid Sting”); end _________ LINKS & DOWNLOADS _________ Horde BIS List Spreadsheet Patch 1.1 - 1.12 [LINK] Alliance BIS List Spreadsheet Patch 1.1 - 1.12 [LINK] Hunter Damage Cycles Breakdown 1.0 [LINK] Hunter Damage Cycles Breakdown 2.0 [LINK] TKA Something - A Hunter Site From Retail Vanilla [LINK] Consumables List [LINK] Hunter Pet Beastiary [LINK] Hunter Simulator [DOWNLOAD] You can upload the simulator to google sheets if you don't have excel
  10. Greetings, This is a guide on how to get MobInfo2 working with a complete database. Without the database you'd have to kill every mob to see their health values. Download the Addon (MobInfo2.rar) Download the Database (MobInfo2.lua) Extract MobInfo2.rar and drag it to "...World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns" Drag MobInfo2.lua to "...World of Warcraft\WTF\Account\<Account Name>\SavedVariables" If it still doesn't show NPC Health, then type "/mobinfo2" (into your WoW chat), navigate over to the Database tab and press Start the Import Kind Regards, Rele
  11. Many people use the "VanillaGuide" addon which contains Brian Kopp's guide. In that guide you should collect Beached Sea Creature and Beached Sea Turtle quests. Reason why I had wrote this guide it's because the Brian's guide is bit incorrect. For example, if you accept 2 Beached Sea Creature quests you get only one Creature's bones(I don't know how it worked in blizz-vanilla, but in all private servers what I played it was so), then you can finish only one of them. 12-17 Section. First run. Accept Beached Sea Turtle(looks like a creature) at (41.9, 31.5). Accept Beached Sea Turtle at (37.1, 62.2). Accept Beached Sea Creature at (36.0, 70.9). Turn it in. Second run. Accept Beached Sea Turtle at (44.2, 20.6). Accept Beached Sea Turtle(looks like a creature) at (32.7, 80.8). Accept Beached Sea Creature(looks like a turtle) at (31.2, 85.6). Turn it in Notice: steps 2 and 3 are hard, if you are not hunter/warlock, find a party. Third run. Accept Beached Sea Creature(looks like a turtle) at (53.1, 18.1). Turn it in. 21-24 Section. Accept Beached Sea Turtle at (31.7, 83.7). Accept Beached Sea Creature at (31.3, 87.4). Turn it in.
  12. Introduction When it comes to tanking you have one job and that is reducing the amount of damage your party/raid is receiving as a whole. In order to accomplish this you need to do 2 things. #1 - Get hit for less damage than anyone else in the group #2 - Hold agro so that you are the one being hit In order to succeed in either of these areas, 95% of the work is in preparation before your raid/dungeon group. In order to mitigate as much damage as possible you need to get the best gear available to you, enchant your gear and get consumables. Many players think that holding agro just means having the highest threat and that it comes down to skill. This is a falicy. Pushing the right buttons is not hard and you can even make macro's to use the right abilities so all you have to do is mash 1 or 2 buttons. In order to be a truly great tank you need to first understand threat mechanics inside and out. After that you need to understand how each of your abilities causes threat. Without this knowledge you may be amazing at tanking a single boss but fail horribly as soon as you have to tank multiple mobs or deal with boss mechanics that leave you with low rage. Knowing how the game works and how your abilities work allows you to adapt to any situation. In some cases you will need to take shield slam out of your rotation so you can use it to remove a buff on a boss/mob or stop using shield block because you don't need the crush immunity in that situation but you really need more rage. This guide is broken into 2 parts (Mitigation and Threat) with a short note on HP. There are plenty of good talent specs all over the internet and these forums so I won't bother covering that. The intention of this guide is to cover all of the game mechanics related to a prot warrior in detail. Mitigation When a boss attacks you many different things can happen. The boss could miss, you could dodge, parry or block. The boss could crit you for increased damage or hit you with a crushing blow (also increased damage but not as much as a crit). Crushing Blow When a mob is higher level than you it has a chance to land a crushing blow that deals 50% increased damage. This is like a modifier on their normal attacks and a crushing blow can't be a critical hit, it is one or the other. Raid bosses (level ??) have a 15% chance to hit with a crushing blow. Critical Hit When a mob is the same level as you and your defense skill is at it's maximum for your level, it has a 5% chance to land a critical hit. For each point of difference between your defense skill and a mobs weapon skill, the mob has a 0.04% increased chance to land a critical hit on you (if their weapon skill is higher than your defense skill) or a 0.04% reduced chance to land a critical hit on you (if their weapon skill is lower than your defense skill). Mobs have a weapon skill equal to 5 * level. So a level 60 mob has a weapon skill of 300 and a level 63 mob has a weapon skill of 315. Raid bosses are counted as level 63 so they have a 5.6% chance to land a critical hit on a level 60 warrior with 300/300 defense skill. (315 - 300) * 0.04 + 5 = 5.6% At 440 defense skill you have 125 higher defense than raid boss weapon skill which is a 5% reduction in their chance to crit, which reduces their chance to 0%. This is what everyone calls the "Defense Cap" but in reality it is the "Crit reduction cap" because the defense skill continues to give you dodge, parry, block and reduces the bosses chance to hit you when you go beyond 440. Miss Miss works exactly the same as critical hits except the opposite. Defense increases the mobs chance to miss you instead of decreasing it and as a result there is no attainable limit. A Miss is very similar to a dodge or parry in that you take no damage from the bosses attack. Together these three outcomes are called "Avoidance" because it completely avoids the attack instead of reducing the damage of the attack like armor and block. The difference between Miss and the other types of avoidance is that a mob can still miss you while you are stunned or otherwise incapacitated. The Dodge, Parry and Block outcomes are covered later in the guide. In order to determine the outcome of a mobs attack, the game constructs an attack table with 10,000 rows and fills it up with each possibility. If you have a 2% chance to dodge, then 2% of those 10,000 rows will say "Dodge", if you have a 20% chance to block, then 20% of those 10,000 rows will say "Block". Hit is added last and it fills the remaining rows. Sometimes when you add up the percentages for all possible outcomes, the total is above 100%. In this case, each possible outcome has a priority. The highest priority outcomes are added to the table first and when the table is already full the remaining lower-priority outcomes are simply dropped. This is what it means when players say that you can push crushing blows off the attack table. For example, At first the attack table for the boss looks like this: Miss 6% Parry 8% Dodge 8% Block 8% Crit 5% Crushing Blow 15% Hit 35% Total = 100% Now we use shield block which increases our chance to block by 75%, our attack table now looks like this: Miss 6% Parry 8% Dodge 8% Block 78% Total = 100% Notice that the block chance is only 78% instead of 83%, that is because some of our block is being pushed off the table. This mechanic also means that it is impossible to block a crushing blow or dodge a critical hit. A single random value is generated between 1 and 10,000 and the corresponding row is pulled from the table. As a result, it is not possible to combine outcomes. The outcomes that I already described are really properties that exist on the mob that you are fighting. The remaining stats are stats that exist on your character and they can be enhanced with gear and consumables. When it comes to block there are 2 stats, Block Value and Block Chance. Block Value This is the amount of damage that attacks are reduced by when you block. If you have a block value of 50 and a mob hits you for 100 on a normal hit, then when you block the attack it will only hit for 50. This stat is determined by adding up the "block value" on all of your items. Some shields have a block value in white text and then a second block value in green. This is because the block on a shield is determined by it's item level. Some shields have increased block value as a bonus stat, this is what shows up in green. Stength also adds a little bit to your block value but it is a very small amount. Block Chance This is the chance that a block will occur and is affected by Defence, a shield enchant, the shield block ability and a few pieces of set gear. You can only block attacks against mobs that are in front of you and you can not block while stunned or incapacitated. You can't block spells. Dodge Pretty obvious, gives a 1% chances to not be hit. You can only dodge attacks from mobs that are in front of you (NPC's and pet's are able to dodge attacks from behind, but players can NOT) and you can't dodge while stunned or incapacitated. Parry Same as dodge plus reduces the time until your next auto attack by a little bit which makes it slightly better than dodge. If you have a straight choice of 1 dodge or 1 parry you might as well go parry but the difference is small. You can only parry attacks from mobs that are in front of you. You can't parry while stunned or incapacitated. Defense Each point of defense increases your dodge, parry, block and enemy miss chance by 0.04%. It also reduces the chance for enemies to crit you by 0.04%. 8 defense increases your avoidance by 0.96% so it is almost the same as 1 dodge or parry even when you are at the "Defense Cap" of 440. Defense continues to reduce your chance to be crit or hit while you are stunned or incapacitated; however, you are still unable to block, dodge or parry. Strength Each point of strength increases your shield block value by ~0.05 (the formula is Block value = <total block value from gear> + [(Strength / 20) - 1]). Agility Each point of agility increases armor by 2 and your dodge chance by %0.05. Stamina 10 HP per stamina Armor Each point of armor increases your physical damage reduction. As your armor goes up each point increases the percentage of damage reduction by a smaller amount; however, each point of armor increases the amount of time you will live (without being healed) by the same amount. For example, You have 0 armor and 10,000 HP. A certain mob hits you for 1000 damage every 1 seconds, so you will live for 10 seconds. (10,000 / 1,000) = 10 Adding 2000 armor increases your damage reduction from 0% to 25%. You are now hit for 750 damage and will live for 13 seconds. An increase of 3 seconds. Adding another 2000 armor only increase your damage reduction to 37.5%, not 50%. You are now hit for 625 damage and will live for 16 seconds. An increase of 3 seconds. Note: These are random made-up values to illustrate the point, actual values are much different but have the same effect. Armor provides it's full effect even when you are stunned or incapacitated. Mitigation Abilities Shield Block Increases your chance to block attacks by 75% for 5 seconds (1 charge), this will push crushing blow off of the attack table. You should have Shield Block up 100% of the time when fight raid bosses or any hard hitting trash mobs. When tanking a large number of mobs that don't hit that hard, shield block is pretty much useless as the charges are quickly consumed. It is very bad if you are tanking a boss and a small mob is hitting you at the same time. The small mob will consume your shield block charges allowing the boss to land crushing blows. Examples include welps on onyxia or Broodlord. Shield block can also be used to force a block and allow revenge to be used. Sometimes this is useful when attempting to retain second on the threat list. You can stand in cleave range with shield block up in order to activate revenge. The improved shield block talent goes up to 3/3 but you only need 1 point to gain a second charge, the extra duration is useless as bosses have a 2.5s attack speed (and should be slowed further by debuffs, see below). Thunderclap This ability lowers a bosses attack speed and is by far the biggest damage reducing debuff that can be on a boss. The instinct is to say that you should have this up on every boss 100% of the time but there are many cases when this is not true. If a boss does not hit that hard and your healers are bored, you should not be using thunderclap. If the boss attacks more often, then you can be hit more for increased rage (and by extension, threat). Note: The MT should not be wasting global cool downs to use this ability, it should be kept up by off-tanks or DPS warriors. Demoralizing Shout This ability can have a big effect on some bosses and should be up most of the time. Since it reduces boss damage instead of slowing down their attack speed you shouldn't see too big of a rage increase when it is left off. Putting anything more than 3 points into Improved Demo Shout has no effect on bosses as their attack power is reduced to 0 after 3 points; however, if warlocks in your raid are using Curse of Recklessness to reduce armor then you should have a warrior with 5/5 imp demo shout for harder bosses. Note: The MT should not be wasting global cool downs to use this ability, it should be kept up by off-tanks or DPS warriors. Last Stand You get this ability from talents and every prot warrior should have it. This ability can be used when you are low on health (to keep you alive temporarily until healers can catch up) or to increase your maximum health when you know a big hit will be coming soon (adds exploding on death during Garr for example). Ideally your healers will have addons that show the duration of your Last Stand and can start casting their spells so they land shortly after it ends. Note: When the ability ends your maximum health is first reset, then you lose the bonus health. You can be reduced to a minimum of 1HP when this runs out so be careful when you use it and warn your healers after using it. Disarm Many warriors rarely use this ability. When you first hit 60 and start tanking dungeons it makes a world of difference. You should disarm anything that hits hard as often as possible. Some mobs also lose their special attacks when disarmed like the rogues in UBRS, they can't gouge when disarmed. When you get into raiding most bosses are immune to disarm but it can still be useful when tanking a large number of trash mobs or hard hitting trash mobs in BWL. Shield Wall This is your ultimate "oh shit" button but much like last stand, you can use it pre-emptively when you know a big hit is incoming. It is on a long cooldown so be careful when you use it. Always warn your healers when you use shield wall so they know to expect you to suddenly start taking a large amount of damage again. Ideally your healers will have addons that show the duration of your shield wall and can start casting their spells so they land shortly after it ends. As for Improved Shield wall, if you are the MT then chances are you won't need an increased duration on shield wall so I don't recommend the talent; however, if you are the 2nd or 3rd tank and offten step up when a tank goes down, then the increased duration can be a huge help as you probably aren't in the right gear to be tanking a boss. If your guild is currently in progression and having difficulties on some bosses, then improved shield wall might be a good idea even for the main tank. Berserker Rage Berserker rage increases the amount of rage you receive when hit and makes you immune to fear. This ability requires berserker stance but nobody says you have to stay in berserker stance after using it. As a prot warrior you absolutely must have at least 2/5 tactical master. This allows you to retain 10 rage when you switch to berserker stance, use berserker rage and then immediately switch back to defensive stance. You can also switch to use intercept. This is what we call "stance dancing". Health (HP) When you are tanking mitigation is more important than health. Most players think of their health as a full container and you want to keep it full. Instead, think of the health as an empty container that holds damage. The more health you have, the bigger that container is. It doesn't matter how much damage is in that container, as long as the container isn't over flowing. Healers remove damage from your health container. With this mind set, it should be clear that your health is just a buffer. More health just gives you a bigger buffer so your healers have more time to heal you after taking damage. Being at 30% HP is not a bad thing but being at 30% for 5 seconds is. If you are getting as low as 30% HP all the time but you never die, you really don't need more health. If you are at 30% for 5 seconds, you don't need more health or mitigation, you need healers that aren't sleeping. Why am I telling you this? Well, you need to watch what is happening while you play and make smart choices about gear and consumables that you use. For Example, If you are using a flask of the titans (increases health by 1,200) but you never go below 1,200 HP for the duration of the flask, that flask was kind of a waste. This might not mean that you shouldn't be using the flask. Maybe you could swap some of your gear with high stamina for gear that has higher mitigation (armor, defense, dodge, parry, etc.) but lower stamina. The point is, do not go overboard on health. You need enough to survive any bursts of damage that you will be hit with but after you reach that point, any more health is a waste and you should be gearing for more mitigation. If you have really good healers with you, then you don't need as much health. If your healers still have terrible gear and don't use many consumables, you might need a high health pool. There are some fights where a boss can hit so hard in a very short time frame (1-2 seconds) that you actually want to swap out some low-stamina/high-mitigation gear for higher stamina gear. Threat When it comes to how threat works there are tons of class specific modifiers that change things. In order to keep things simple let's just start with the basics and ignore all of the modifiers and exceptions. The Basics Every PvE mob in the game has a hidden threat table that keeps track of every player's "Threat". In general, every time a player does 1 damage, 1 threat is added to their total on the mobs threat table. The mob will "agro" which ever player has the most threat on it; however, when a second player increases their threat above the mobs current target, it will not switch targets immediately. Mobs wait until a player has 10% higher threat than their current target before switching agro to the new player. If the new player is standing further than 10 yards away (I can't remember the exact value, someone help me out here), the mob will wait until the player has 30% higher threat than the current target. Example: Threat Modifiers In reality, very few attacks actually cause threat on a 1:1 ratio with their damage. Most Melee DPS classes have a hidden threat modifier of 80%, that means that for every 10 damage they cause, they only generate 8 threat on the creatures attack table. Warriors in defensive stance and druids in bear form have a threat modifier of 130%, that means that for every 10 damage they cause, they generate 13 threat on the target. Many classes also have talents that reduce or increase the threat caused by their attacks and abilities. Warriors and Druids can gain a second threat modifier of 115% which stacks multiplicatively with their stance modifier. That means the threat caused is calculated with the following formula [Damage] * 1.3 * 1.15 = [Threat]. There are also player buffs that add threat modifiers like Salvation (30% decrease) and Tranquil Air Totem (20% decrease). Abilities with Bonus Threat In addition to threat modifiers, some classes have abilities that cause bonus threat. Most of these abilities have a note in their tooltip that says something like "this ability causes a high amount of threat". There are two types of bonus threat from abilities, the most common is a flat threat modifier. This means that there is a static amount of threat added to the attack when you use that ability. So the final threat caused by the ability is [damage + bonus threat] * [modifer1] * [modifier2] ... The second type of bonus threat is a multiplier. Instead of adding a flat amount of threat to the ability, it instead multiplies the threat caused. Instead of causing 1 threat for each damage, the ability causes 2 threat for each damage. This type of ability is not very common at all, some examples are Maul (druid), Mind Blast (priest). There are also a few abilities that function the same as the flat threat modifiers but they subtract threat instead of adding it. One example of this is Feint (rogue). Healing and Buff threat When it comes to healing or buffing other players things get a bit more complicated. Healing other players causes 1 threat for every 2 health healed (note: overhealing causes no threat). Each buff has a flat amount of threat that it causes and some have a flat amount of threat caused per player that is buffed. If you are in a group of 5 players and currently fighting 3 different mobs, which mob should have your threat added to it's table when you cast a healing spell on another player? The answer is, you add threat to all 3 mobs. Any threat caused by healing or buffing other players is divided among all of the mobs within a certain radius. I don't know the exact radius but it is big enough that we can effectively say that the threat is divided among all of the mobs that are currently in combat with your group. For example, Threat from Power Gain Aside from damage, abilities with bonus threat and healing there is one last way to add threat to mobs. Any time your character gains mana or rage it causes a small amount of threat on all mobs in combat, just like healing threat. This does not apply to normal mana regeneration due to spirit or "x mana per 5 seconds" gear. It applies to things like mana potions, rage potions and drinking/eating. Generally speaking, if the power gain shows up in the combat log, it probably generated a tiny bit of threat. Initially I did not include this section in the guide because it deals with such a minuscule amount of threat. You will never have to worry about someone pulling agro off of you with power gain threat nor will you ever use it as a tool to hold agro. That said, in any situation where there are multiple mobs in combat and you have 0 threat on any of them, power gain threat is suddenly a big deal. If you pull 5 mobs while a caster is sitting in the back drinking, any mob that you have 0 threat on will immediately head straight for the caster. Taunt abilities If a mob is currently attacking you and you use taunt, the ability does nothing. If a mob is attacking someone else and you use taunt, your threat is first set to the SAME as the mobs current target. The mob is then forced to switch agro to you. AoE taunt abilities do not work in the same way, Challenging Shout (warrior) and Challenging Roar (druid). These abilities force every mob in range to attack you for the duration but it does not change your threat. Many raid bosses are immune to taunt. Special Boss Mechanics There are some boss abilities that also effect threat but outside of raiding they are very rare. These abilities come in various forms, the most common are abilities that reduce the threat of anyone hit by either a set amount or percentage (usually 50%). As a general rule of thumb, any knock-back ability will also reduce threat by 50%. Some bosses will have a threat wipe where their threat table is either completely cleared after using an ability or the threat of their primary target is reset to 0. Infinite rage and low rage, two different types of tanking Note: This section is based on MOST vanilla servers, on servers using the 'correct' rage generation formulas (and I only put that in quotes because I haven't dug into verifying it myself yet) you will only have infinite rage on Vael in BWL due to special boss mechanics. For servers with lower rage generation, you can't ignore the threat per rage numbers except for on Vaelastrasz. When tanking a raid boss you will often gain rage far faster than you can use it. This is due to the boss hitting you quite hard. This is the situation most people are talking about when giving advice on how to generate the maximum amount of threat. If you have infinite rage then ignore the rage cost of your abilities and simply use those that generate the most threat. Unfortunately, you won't be in this situation all the time. Sometimes you have to generate the most threat that you can but with limited rage. The most common situations are tanking 5man dungeons in MC or BWL gear (you simply don't get hit hard enough to generate rage) or when off-tanking a boss in BWL. In the previous section I mentioned that some bosses will reduce your threat during the fight. There are also some abilities that will stun your character and the boss will ignore you for the duration. This means that on many fights you need 2 tanks so that when the first tank has their threat reduced or is stunned, the boss will attack the second tank instead of the DPS. It is difficult to be the off tank in this situation because you only generate rage from your auto attacks and have a lot less to work with. For these situations, you really want to use abilities that generate the most threat PER RAGE instead of simply the most threat overall.
  13. I thought it might be nice to have these guides in one place in case people request them. The correct vanilla versions can be a bit hard to locate. Not sure if it's worth pinning, but we can at least have them available for search. I personally won't use a guide when the server goes live, but plan to use one on beta as it allows you to progress quickly so that we can get through more content and encounter more bugs. It also takes you through a great deal of content and which will expose more bugs. Both of these should be accurate to Vanilla. I've only seen a couple of quests in either guide that did not match Nost/Kronos and even with those it could be the fault of the servers. Joana/Mancow's Leveling guide for Horde http://xoma-rnd.narod.ru/1-60-horde-leveling-guide-v1.06.htm This guide was created for vanilla but was later updated with a few quests from BC. These quests can be ignored, as you won't find them on our server. (Let me know if you see any others and I will edit the post) 26-28 Ashenvale Destroy the Legion Diabolical Plans Never Again! 29-30 Thousand Needles A Different Approach A Dip in the Moonwell 34-36 Stranglethorn Vale Bloodscalp Insight An Unusual Patron 41-42 Swamp of Sorros Little Morsels Dustwallow Marsh The quests from the crashed zeppelin and Mudsprocket. Jame's Alliance leveling Guide http://wow-pro.com/node/600/revisions/600/view The horde leveling guide assumes you start in the Durotar and is a full 1-60 guide with minimal grinding. The Alliance leveling guide starts at 30, as it assumes that you'll be able to figure out the first 30 on your own since there are plenty of zones for leveling early on. "Some people say that Grinding is always faster than questing, this is true in theory when you don't know which quests to take and which to avoid, and what is the best order to do them. With this guide, questing will be very efficient and much better than pure grinding." -Jame Enjoy!
  14. Intro Warlocks are mainly brought to raids for their high damage output and the class is arguably the most competitive dps class in late 1.12 content. On top of that they bring a ton of utility to the raid; Soulstones, Curses, Blood Pact and top AoE abilities. I raided every instance in Vanilla WoW in a hardcore setting for a long time and decided to share what I learnt so far. This guide is meant for players who are new to the Warlock class and want to understand the different playstyles and talent builds the class has to offer in PvE. This post also includes a list of pre-raid gear, details about world buffs, discussions/explanations on which stats to prioritize and so on. At the end of the guide there is also information on how to tank the Twin Emperors in AQ40. 1. Race choice Before I get into talent specs and gear I'd like to quickly talk about Race choice. The playable Warlock Races are Human, Gnome, Undead and Orc where Gnome is the only Race with a racial that benefits Warlocks in PvE. "Expansive Mind" gives you 5% increased intellect which ends up being <1% extra damage in a normal raid setting. The big differences between the races are mainly PvP-based; Stun resist (Orc), Wotf (Undead), Escape Artist (Gnome) and Perception (Human). Since this is a PvE guide I won't waste your time discussing them but simply state that the Race you choose to play has minimal impact on your performance in a Raid. 2. Talents and Playstyles Talent build 1: Shadow Mastery + Ruin (SM/Ruin, 30/0/21) (The Curse of Exhaustion spell is only useful on Kel'Thuzad and Curse of Agony and Amplify Curse are very situational in raids so you are free to move those talents around. The rest is pretty much mandatory, though. Also note that the only reason we spec into Siphon Life is to reach the "Shadow Mastery"-talent, it's a very inefficient spell overall so don't use it just because you spent a talent point on it.) The SM/Ruin-spec is very good for starting out when you're a newly dinged level 60 player. It uses Imp as a pet which brings extra stamina for your party, and it boosts the damage/hit chance of your damage over time abilities which are good in 5-man and 10-man instances. Immolate, Corruption and Curse of Agony are all spells that increases your damage dealt compared to just Shadow Bolting as long as the mob doesn't die long before the dot runs out. In Vanilla World of Warcraft there is a limited amount of debuff slots on bosses which means that there is a limited amount of dots you can put on a raid boss before they start to overwrite/delete each other. When you are raiding with 39 other people who all have to share a certain amount of debuff slots you'll have to prioritize the important debuffs and there are usually more important ones than the average Warlock DoT. Warlocks in TBC are usually referred to as "Shadow Bolt-bots" since spamming only Shadow Bolt can be the most effective way to do damage, but the reason Warlocks in 1.12 doesn't use many DoTs is because there just aren't enough debuff slots for them. The spec above is very useful while playing in smaller groups where there is room for Curse of Agony, Corruption and Immolate. In larger raids, however, there is a more effective talent build that is less focused on DoTs and more focused on Shadow Bolts: Talent build 2: Demonic Sacrifice + Ruin (DS/Ruin, 7/21/23) ("Improved Voidwalker", "Improved Succubus" and "Fel Stamina" in the Demonology tree are filler talents that aren't important for the overall build. You can exchange the four points in "Cataclysm" for the "Intensity" and "Pyroclasm" talents, the 3sec stun works great on trash packs.) As a DS/Ruin Warlock you sacrifice your Succubus with the spell "Demonic Sacrifice" to gain a 15% increased Shadow damage buff. 15% increased damage from "Demonic Sacrifice" beats 10% increased damage from "Shadow Mastery" making this a more effective damage output build when only using Shadow Bolt. In raids, however, there are need for both these talent specs: DS/Ruin doesn't use an Imp so you need at least one SM/Ruin specced Warlock to provide Blood Pact for the tank group. Depending on the raid (and depending on if the debuff slot limit is 8 or 16) there might still be room for Warlock debuffs. Which ones are going to be used is something you and your guild members has to discuss. Curse of Recklessness (CoR), Curse of Shadows (CoS) and Curse of Elements (CoE) are all mandatory to the point where you usually have three Warlocks individually dedicated to these spells to make sure they are always up on important targets. If there is still room for more debuffs on the boss then DoTs like Corruption and Curse of Agony could be used in moderation. In later instances like AQ40 or Naxxramas where Mages are fire-specced it's very important that there is debuff room for Ignite. Ignite is a huge dps boost for Mages and any Warlock DoTs that run the risk of overwriting Ignite should not be used. In instances where Mages are frost-specced (MC/BWL) people are usually more liberal with who can use what DoTs but later on there is a very strict amount of Warlock DoTs that is allowed to be used. In my old guild we used CoR, CoS and CoE and allowed three Warlocks to use Corruption. If we added a fourth player to use Corruption we risked Ignite being overwritten. Before you start raiding the spec I'd recommend is the SM/Ruin spec. In 40-man-raids there is a limit to how many SM/Ruin Warlocks that is optimal to use, so which one to play is something you have to discuss with your Class Leader. There are no other good talent builds for Warlocks to use in PvE. A 30/21/0 (SM/DS) talent build lacks "Improved Shadow Bolt", "Bane" and "Ruin" which are all very important talents. And since there are no spammable fire spells in 1.12 you can't spec full Destruction either. Regardless of what talents you choose, the most efficient spell rotation is always to mash Shadow Bolt (and use DoTs if you are allowed to). Even if you would spend all your talent points in the Destruction tree you would still lose dps using fire spells compared to just Shadow Bolt spamming, so there is no reason to spec into any other spells. The only possible PvE build that's not SM/Ruin or DS/Ruin would be MD/Ruin (0/30/21) with a Succubus, but that's simply a downgraded DS/Ruin build. I also want to talk about the spell "Shadowburn" which shares the same characteristics as a Shadow Bolt except for that it's shorter range, instant cast, has a cooldown and uses a Soul Shard. Normally while leveling you'd only use this spell as a finisher as you don't get the Soul Shard back unless the enemy dies from it, but in raids you can increase your overall damage by using it every cooldown despite losing a Shard every time you do so. You should make sure to fill your Shard bag while fighting trash so you have the ability to spam Shadowburn on bosses. One important thing to notice which isn't very apparent, however, is that Shadowburn doesn't benefit as much from your +Spell Power stat as Shadow Bolt does (3/7 instead of 6/7). So if you are low geared you will see Shadowburn doing about the same damage as Shadow Bolt, but the better geared you get the more effective Shadow Bolt will become while Shadowburn will lag behind. It's always a damage-increase though considering it only uses 1,5sec of your time, and it's especially useful if you need to move around as Instant-cast spells don't require you to stand still. Lastly, make sure to hand out Healthstones to people who need them and put some effort into Soulstoning healers. And as an SM/Ruin Warlock focus on positioning your Imp correctly so the tank gets the Blood Pact buff, that's (one of the) main reasons you are in the raid in the first place. 3. Raid Consumables Elixir of Shadow Power Greater Arcane Elixir Wizard Oil (Patch 1.7/ZG Patch: Brilliant Wizard Oil) Limited Invulnerability Potion (LIP) (Use if you pull aggro, very important potion) Fire/Frost/Shadow/Arcane/Nature Protection Potions (Depending on Instance) Doing it right^ 4. Warlock Stats The three important offensive stats for Warlocks are +Hit%, +Crit% and +Spell damage (this includes +Shadow damage as Warlocks almost only use Shadow spells). Stamina is also a great (and underrated) stat but not really comparable to the previously mentioned ones as it's a defensive and very situational stat. Intellect increases your Maximum Mana (and to some extent increases your Crit chance) but Warlocks aren't very mana-dependent because of Lifetap so Intellect is not a very important stat overall. Strength, Agility and Spirit aren't Warlock stats. So when you compare items for PvE you should almost exclusively look at the +Hit%, +Crit% and +Spell damage. The traditional base stats is of less importance and will very rarely impact which item you choose over another. So how much is +Hit Worth, in comparison to +Crit? If you Crit you deal twice the amount of damage you normally would (assuming you talented into "Ruin"). This would mean that +1% Hit = +1% Crit (2 Hits does the same amount of damage as 1 Crit and 1 Miss). However, Spell Crits are dependant on you first Hitting the spell, so if you have a 90% chance to Hit then 10% of your Crits are going to be wasted on a missed spell. This means that an item with the stat +1% Hit Chance increases your overall damage with slightly more than 1% (For example, going from 90% Hit to 91% Hit is a damage increase of ~1.1%) while an item with the stat +1% Crit chance increases your overall damage with slightly less than 1% (Same example, +1% Crit with a 90% Hit chance is only a 0.9% damage increase). FYI Base Hit chance is at 83%. So +1% Hit is always better than the same amount of +1% Crit then? Not necessarily. Crit can actually be a better stat for Warlocks than Hit because of the "Improved Shadow Bolt" (ISB) talent in the Destruction talent tree. If your Shadow Bolt Crits a target it doesn't only do extra damage, it also increases the damage done by the next four direct Shadow damage spells made against it by 20% each. So while you feel good about Critting a spell you are only about halfways through the real value of that Crit. For example, if the next four Shadow Bolts done to the target are hits, that means that you didn't only do your Shadow Bolt damage times 2, but 2,8 (2 + 0,20 + 0,20 + 0,20 + 0,20) which is a lot of extra damage. The value of the ISB debuff varies a lot depending on if you raid in an 8 debuff slot setting (pre-ZG) or a 16 debuff slot setting (post-ZG). If the debuff can't be applied to the boss at all (usually the case in an 8 debuff-slot setting) then it's useless and you will end up benefiting more from +Hit than +Crit as mentioned before. In a 16 debuff slot-setting, however, ISB might stick on the target for just enough time for a couple of Shadow Bolts to benefit from it. It's hard to estimate the exact value of the ISB as it very much depends on what debuffs are used by the raid but an estimate is that Crit is ~1.33 times as valuable as Hit in a setting with 16 debuff slots. So how much is +Spell Power worth, in comparison to +Hit? It all depends on your gear level. Spell Power scales with Hit, and Hit scales with Spell Power. Warlocks mostly increase their damage through increased Spell Power and not +Hit%, which means that +Hit% generally scales with gear whereas +Spell Power mostly doesn't. In other words, 1% Hit is worth over twice as much Spell Power when you are fully BiS compared to when you are newly dinged at level 60. As soon as you reach level 60 you benefit around as much from 1% Hit as from 7 Spell Power (with the basic raid consumables mentioned earlier the ratio is 1:8,5, and with pre-raid BiS as well it might even be 1:10). With Absolute BiS-gear late in Naxxramas it's possible to have enough spell power to reach a ratio of even 1:15, meaning that 1% Hit is worth as much as 15 Spell Power (And at that point 1% Crit is worth as much as 15x1,33 = 20 Spell Power, assuming a 16-slot debuff limit). I'd also like to mention that there is no "needed" Hit Chance for raiding. You shouldn't value "having a certain amount of Hit", you should simply go for the highest average damage stat. If that means that you won't have any +Hit% from gear at all then so be it. Be smart. There is also a stat called "Decreases the magical resistances of your spell targets by XX" (also called "Spell Penetration" or "Spell Pen") which shows up on several Ahn'Qiraj and Naxxramas item pieces. Curse of Shadows reduces the Shadow Resistances of your target by 75, but if the boss you are fighting has more SR than that then further Spell Pen is very useful. For every 1 point of Resistance your target has there's a 0,25% chance it resists your spellcasts. If it's a non-binary spell (Shadow Bolt for example) then the average resisted damage is 0,25%, and if it's a binary spell (Fear for example) there's instead a 0,25% chance the spell is completely resisted. An item with 10 Spell Pen is therefore worth almost as much as an item with 2,5% hit (assuming your target has any resistances to remove in the first place, otherwise it's useless). It's important to note that when you miss a spell it says "Resist". If your target would have completely resisted your spell with actual Shadow Resistance it also says "Resist". So you can't know for sure if they resisted because you lacked Hit% or Spell Pen. The amount of resistance on bosses differ a lot depending on which server you play on, on Feenix Server no boss had more than 70 SR (which means that resistance penetration is useless as CoS covers 75) but on VanillaGaming many bosses has as much as 145 SR. Elysium seems to be in the middle, and we don't yet know what the state will be on CF. It's therefore hard to say how much resistance penetration you need and you will have to do some research yourself. More information for the curious: Spell Penetration Guide 5. A note on Trinkets and Cooldowns in general On-use-Trinkets are often times very underrated compared to the ones passively giving stats. The reason for this is that it's very comfortable to calculate Trinket damage in a vacuum. For example: The MC Trinket "Talisman of Ephemeral Power" gives you an extra 175 Spell power for 15 seconds, and has a 90 second cooldown. One way to calculate the overall worth of this item is to see that this trinket is active 1/6th of the time and gives 175 Spell Power so all you have to do to understand the usefulness of this Trinket is to divide 175 by 6. 175/6 = 29 Spell Power. So it's as good as the Trinket "Briarwood Reed" then, as it also gives 29 Spell Power? That's not a realistic way to calculate the value of an On-Use Trinket. There are two main reasons for this: 1. The trinket will most likely be on cooldown even after the fight ends. If we take the MC Trinket I mentioned above as an example again, any time the fight is not exactly (N * 90s) you will get more DPS out of the trinket than you "should". For example, if the fight is 2 minutes long you get to use the trinket twice over a 120 second period. 120/(2*15) = 1/4. 1/4 multiplied by 175 is 43,75. That makes the Trinket a clear upgrade from the Briarwood Reed 29 Spell Power Trinket. And if the fight is only 15 seconds long the Trinket gave you 175 Spell Power flat over the entire fight. Any cooldown left on your Trinket when the fight is over is a DPS increase. 2. When you fight a boss you don't cast Shadow Bolt the entire time. You move around, you hide, you Life Tap or alt tab to check out some girl on Instagram. Assuming you are a decent player you only use the Trinket when you know the next 15 or 20 seconds will be spent Shadowbolting the boss so when you later have to run to the other side of the room your Trinket is ticking down. If you play an encounter like the Four Horsemen where you dps a boss ~half of the time then your on-use Trinkets becomes twice as effective since you use them twice as much per second that you are actually dpsing. This way, your trinket becomes more effective the smarter you use it. Don't treat Active Trinket-effects as if they were in a vacuum. There are very few times you shouldn't have an on-use-Trinket equipped assuming you looted Talisman of Ephemeral Power or the Zul'Gurub trinket Zandalarian Hero Charm. 6. Enchants and Pre-Raid Gear Which items to gather pre-raid is highly dependant on which patch you play on as well as how much resistances the bosses you fight have and since these things differ from server to server it is impossible to compile a standardized Warlock pre-raid BiS list. In the spoiler below there's a list including all the best non-raid items from patch 1.12, which means that the majority of these items most likely aren't acquirable on a fresh patch 1.0 vanilla server. For example, Dire Maul wasn't in the game until a few months in, the Alterac Valley, Warsong Gulch and Arathi Basin reputation rewards weren't added until patch 1.4, 1.6, and 1.7 respectively, the Bloodvine Set wasn't acquirable until ZG, the Tier 0.5 questline (Deathmist set) wasn't added until patch 1.10 and so on. There were also many small incremental gear changes where weak items became strong and vice versa. Before you start the search for these items make sure they are actually in the game so you don't waste time looking for non-existing equipment. Pre-Raid gear: Enchants: 7. World Buffs World Buffs are a big part of vanilla raiding and one of the reasons the game world feels so alive. Pre-TBC there are several long-duration buffs you can (and should!) gather prior to a raid in order to maximize your raid performance. These buffs are usually gotten far out in the world but their long duration (usually 2 hours) gives you enough time to travel to the raid instance. World Buffs give you increased survivability, movement speed and/or damage. Unfortunately they don't last past death so you will have to avoid world PvP as much as possible after getting them, which can be a challenge on highly populated servers. World Buffs also forces you to play very safe in raids, I'd for example highly recommend saving your potion cooldown for Limited Invulnerability Potion or Protection/HP Potions instead of spending it on a Mana Potion as the safety of keeping your World Buffs is worth a lot. Dieing early on in a raid doesn't only lose you damage on that fight, but it also lowers your damage on future bossfights as you're now without World Buffs. Here's a list of the most important World Buffs for Warlocks: Rallying Cry of the Dragonslayer (a.k.a. Head-buff) is an AoE-buff that's gained from turning in the Onyxia or Nefarian head in Stormwind or Orgrimmar. This World Buff is usually planned by the guild beforehand ("We are popping head at 19:30") and buffs everybody in a large area (SW/OG Gates) for two hours. It's one of the buffs that's leechable and infinite so if another guild is using it you can just show up and get it for no effort. This is one of the more powerful World Buffs and benefits Warlocks a lot. Spirit of Zandalar (a.k.a Heart-buff) is another AoE-buff that's gained from turning in the Heart of Hakkar at Yojamba Isle in STV. It's also a leechable AoE-buff that's usually planned by the guild beforehand ("We are popping heart at 19:20"). Yojamba Isle is far from civilization but it's the only world buff that lasts through death (up until patch 1.10, at least). Usually this is the first guild buff to be used before a mage opens a portal to SW/OG for the head-buff. Warlocks benefits from this buff the least of all classes as our dps isn't very dependant on stats but 10% movement speed and 15% extra Intellect and Stamina is still a big deal. At Yojamba Isle you also have the chance to gain the Spirit of Zanza potion from Rin'wosho the Trader. Bring some ZG Coins or Bijous to exchange for Zandalar Honor Token, it's the currency used by the Zandalar trolls. Buy one Zanza, use it, then buy another one (They are unique so you can only have one in your inventory at a time). There are three Zanzas to choose from but the +50 stamina/spirit one is superior by far. The Darkmoon Faire (DMF) buff is not always available but very strong if you can get hold of it. Talk to Sayge who is part of the Darkmoon Caravan outside Stormwind or Mulgore and choose the first option twice for a 2 hour +1% to +10% damage buff. You can also choose +X% Stamina or other stat increases (see here). These World Buffs are the important ones to know about as a Warlock even if there are many more. For example; Warchief's Blessing and the Blasted Lands buffs are mainly for melee classes so casters only have to care about the ones mentioned above, even when raiding with a hardcore guild. My recommendation is to be part of the Onyxia/Nefarian Head and Hakkar Heart buffs if your guild gets them, and grab the DMF buff if the caravan is close to one of your cities. If you really want to churn out that extra dps and got a lot of extra time before raidstart then the Dire Maul/Songflower buffs are decent damage boosts. But remember, if you die on the way to the instance or to an early trash pack then all your work was for nothing. If you want to learn more about the subject of World Buffs then "Cruzix" wrote a guide entirely dedicated to them: [Vanilla Guide] - World Buffs. 8. Tanking Twin Emperors In The Temple of Ahn'Qiraj there is a specific encounter called the Twin Emperors, which is a fight that at least 2 Warlocks in the guild has to prepare for. The bossfight consists of two bosses; Emperor Vek'lor and Emperor Vek'nilash. Vek'Nilash is immune to all spell damage and Vek'lor is immune to all melee damage which means that a "normal" tank cannot tank Vek'lor, you have to have a spellcaster doing it. Vek'lor casts Shadow Bolts on its target so a lot of Shadow Resistance is needed for the caster tank, and since Warlocks has an easy time resisting Shadow damage and causing threat it's the best class choice for that role. The one tricky part with this encounter is that the two bosses cannot be close to each other during the fight since they heal very quickly if they are within a certain distance of each other. The other tricky part is that they switch positions every 30 seconds. Vek'lor teleports to Vek'nilash's position and the other way around. This means that you need to have a Warrior tank and a Warlock tank on each side of the room (so 4 tanks in total, two of them Warlocks). Before I explain the fight in detail I'll go through the gear needed for it. The Shadow resistance cap is 300 and it's highly recommended to reach it for this boss as all the damage done by the spellcasting boss is by Shadow Bolts. The buffs Mark of the Wild, Prayer of Shadow Protection and Demon armor gives you like a hundred Shadow Resistance so you need ~200 Shadow Resistance from gear. Optional: You can also respec into MD/Ruin (0/30/21) and summon a Felhunter which passively gives you +60 to all resistances. I listed the best Twin tanking gear below. If you get them all you will end up with more SR than needed, so prioritize the ones you can get and use your best damage gear for the other slots as damage is obviously important for keeping threat. Head: Tier 2, Neck: Eidolon Talisman, Shoulderpads: Tier 1, Back: Juno's Shadow or preferably Cloak of Untold Secrets dropping from Fankriss. Chest: Garb of Royal Ascension (AQ40 trash drop), Bracers: Funeral Cuffs, Gloves: Rank 7 or Rank 12 PvP gloves are extremely useful and highly recommended to use. Belt: Runed Stygian Belt or Tier 2, Legs: Runed Stygian Leggings, Boots: Runed Stygian Boots, Rings: Anything with +Shadow Resistance, search the AH as good as you can. Jasper Link rings are usually useful. Trinkets: Any on-use Spell Power Trinket will be very effective this fight so the Zul'Gurub or the MC on-use Trinkets are recommended. On the other Trinket slot you should fit Ultra-Flash Shadow Reflector (Engineer only) or Ward of the Elements (from the Onyxia attunement quest). Wand: Serpentine Skuller Weapons: The best weapon(s) you have. Bring any +Stamina consumables you can and pre-pop a Greater Frost Protection Potion (against the blizzards). If you are the one pulling the boss then just run up to Vek'lor, pop Shadow Ward, cast Corruption and spam Searing Pain until the bosses switch positions. Avoid Blizzards as well as you can, they do a lot of damage so if you get targeted by one don't just keep casting. After that keep track of the timers. Every 30 seconds the caster and the melee boss switches sides, so you have to be ready to pick up the caster boss (if he'll be on your side) as soon as the teleport happens. Right before the switch stand as close to the melee boss as you can (right below him). Instantly after the switch you Shadowburn the boss and start to run away from him while dotting him. The caster boss does an AoE knockback so make sure to create some distance from the boss. When you are ~25 yards away from the boss start spamming Searing Pain to cause as much threat as possible. Keep spamming and avoid any blizzards. Do this until your 30 seconds of fame is over and the melee boss appears on your side. Now take your time to Life Tap to full mana and use Shadow Ward until the next teleport, and then do the same thing again. Repeat until the boss is dead. Remember that if the bosses are awkwardly positioned it is not your job to move them. Since the caster boss has a long range spellcast it's very hard to move the boss to where you want it and it's usually much better to just keep aggro until the switch happens and let the Warrior tank move the boss to where it should be standing. Practice makes perfect, this is a boss fight that's hard to explain on paper so you have to do it yourself a couple times to actually understand what's going on. But I hope I gave you enough information about the encounter to make you ready to try it. If you are still unsure on some aspects of the fight just ask me in the thread and I'll explain it better for you. Shoutouts to Dhorn and Disingenuous for the knowledge and my old guild <The Argent Crusade> for the good times
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  16. This thread is the inevitable 'help me improve X' thread. Hopefully people will use it and not just spam the forums with thread after thread of 'help me do deeps'. If you don't want your post reported for spam, read one of the following guides; Boomkin Guide by @Yacopok. Restoration Guide by myself. Feral Guide by myself. Read those. Get at least pre-raid Best in Slot (BiS) because otherwise advice will be 'Get pre-raid BiS and read the relevant spec guide. Once you have appropriate gear and an understanding of the guide, raiders in the Druid community can start answering questions about Druid minutia, advanced rotations and advanced gearing choices here. I'm hoping to find a well regarded ranking PvPer to help answer more PvP orientated questions. Ask away.
  17. Thanks to awesome Webarchive.org we can still have the pleasure of reading this 2006 guide from Geld about all aspects of the Paladin in vanilla. Its a long one. Enjoy! Summarized Table of Content quoted here: Rest found here: web/20061110225817/http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11931828&sid=1 I especially like this part of the guide. Etiquette in a Group: Playing a Hybrid Class A Paladin’s Role The paladin’s roll in a group has always been a difficult one to define, for both the paladin and his group. For instance, a paladin can act as a very viable tank in the five-man content before level 60, but many argue that at level 60 they become less and less viable. A paladin’s DPS is frequently argued to be the lowest in the game, making it unviable for raids, but people will also frequently argue that our heals are too small to have any serious effect on the raid. Don’t let yourself get belittled, rise above this. A paladin can easily be the longest-lasting healer in the game. A paladin is the lowest maintenance DPS supplement in the game (since we wear plate and no healer needs to show serious concern for us). A paladin is a very viable AoE tank, and can off tank and even main tank many endgame instances, based on gear, spec, and open mindedness of their group. In fact, a paladin can work at constantly morphing to fill the current needs of the raid every second. It’s even possible to achieve many of these goals all at once. If someone tries to tell you that you are playing in a poor fashion, take a second to reflect. Have you been using the full range and scope of your class? Could you be doing something better? Is something you’re doing detrimental? Just think about what you’re doing and make sure that you’re doing the best you can. On the other hand, if you have been called into a group to fill a single roll (supplying a blessing, cleansing, healing, tanking, DPS, whatever it is), fill that role or leave the group. Just because you are a hybrid class does not mean you always get to do whatever you want. More often than not, a paladin is brought into the group with the group expecting it to act as a healer, and you should always be prepared for this eventuality. Remember that a paladin’s gear has more effect than a paladin’s spec when it comes to filling a role, so either use a very balanced set of gear, or bring several sets for multiple purposes. ------- And of course the PvP one on one guides: Welcome to the duel grounds at the gates of Ironforge. One on one encounters on a totally level playing field are rare in this game, but when they happen, ask yourself: how do I win? Druid A druid has, effectively, 2 methods of defeating a paladin. They can either be feral or restoration build. Balance druids exist, and you’ll probably have to fight one some day, but this is an extremely mana inefficient playstyle, so it should be possible to just heal through their damage then defeat them once they are out of mana without much effort. A feral build druid will try to ambush you and kill you before you can save yourself. This is just shy of impossible. A cat form druid has minimal defense and deals very little damage against a plate wearing class. The real threat is a restoration built druid, and the only serious threat to the paladin is if he makes a mana-consumptive mistake. A restoration druid will attempt to outlast the paladin by using bear form and healing, waiting until the paladin goes out of mana. Against a druid, it’s wise to increase your mana regen as high as you can by using Blessing of Wisdom and placing Judgment of Wisdom on the druid, then just slowly wear down on it. Don’t use any major, mana-consumptive finishing moves on the druid until the druid’s mana has been fully drained via heals or you are certain you can finish him off before he reacts. Always cleanse off the Moonfire debuff, since it deals more damage then the instant portion of the spell, and do the same for any Entangling Roots or Insect Swarms. Stay melee with the druid at all times and you’ll out survive it and win. Use your most efficient spells possible to keep your health high enough that they can’t combo you to death. Rogue Against an equally geared rogue, a paladin usually has nothing to fear.. Consecrate (Rank 1) and Retribution Aura are both highly effective, particularly against dagger rogues. Sit through the stunlock sequence and fire off hammer of justice. Take this opportunity to heal once (if your health deficit is low enough) and proceed to beat down on the rogue. The rogue can and will run from you, and will likely restealth, so be prepared to activate consecrate again at any time. [If you look at the builds I posted earlier, nearly all of them contained the spell Consecration. It is an intrinsic part of the paladin class, along with Spiritual Focus.] The rogue should crumble after the first or second hammer of justice, just remember to spam rank 1 Consecrate and to keep the rogue in combat as often as possible. It will restealth, but the moment it does you can take the opportunity to heal to as full as possible, using Flash of Light to conserve mana. If you find yourself in need of a heal while getting attacked, you may be in trouble. All it takes is one kick while you’re healing to totally disable you for more then enough time to finish you off. You can use Divine Shield or Blessing of Protection to heal, if this is the case, but remember that the spell Blind can hit you and disable you through Blessing of Protection. Stoneform helps a lot here, if you’re a dwarf. Priest This is a rough fight. Defeating a priest, particularly a shadow priest, as a paladin is an extremely difficult task, and as such there is no certain strategy for coming out on top. Instead, I will tell you what to expect during the course of the fight. 1) Periodic Dispel Magics on you. Your combat system (a Seal and a Blessing) will go away completely at the touch of a key to the priest, so if you have Seal of Command, use rank 1 (which is cheap) and open with Blessing of Wisdom on, but don’t go overboard about resealing it. 2) Mana burn. The priest will burn your mana away, leaving you helpless. Once your mana is gone, the fight is basically over, they can damn-near wand you to death. 3) Lots of dots and debuffs. Particularly against a shadow priest, you can expect to get hit by Shadow Word: Pain and Shadow Weaving constantly, and when you cleanse yourself it’s not certain to hit the more powerful debuff, Shadow Word: Pain and instead remove Shadow Weaving. 4) Fear. Once an opportunity, the priest is going to fear you and start beating down on you (after healing to full). A few strategies for dealing with this fight are: Shadow Resistance Aura, self-mana burning (spending most of, if not all, of your own mana as damage/healing BEFORE the priest manages to drain it all), Seal of Justice to interrupt casting, a prayer to the gods, and a good warrior buddy ambushing the priest out of no where. I have yet to defeat a competent 60 priest in a duel. Hunter You wear plate, you are unshakeable (due to Blessing of Freedom and Cleanse), so the hunter won’t deal unduly huge sums of damage do you and won’t be able to keep you at a range for long. Get in melee range, keep Viper Sting cleansed or purified, and run straight for the guy. You’ll hit his traps, but this is almost inevitable. You can bubble out of a trap if you feel it necessary, but for the most part it isn’t. Once you’re melee, do your best to stay there. Consecrate when you see him feign death and he might not drop out of combat and retrap you. Really good hunters can stay at a range from you for a considerable amount of time, and possibly even defeat you by staying far away, but it’s a hard fight for them. Shaman Although the shaman does have purge, it isn’t nearly as difficult a fight as a priest. The shaman’s mana pool tends to be much smaller, its regen smaller still, and the price of purge and all of the Shaman’s other spells are quite high, so you can safely reseal and maybe even rebless knowing that he’s going to go out of mana before you do. In fact, this is the best way to win, wait for his mana to drain away completely then beat him down. Shaman are the least efficient class in the game, mana wise, while paladins are the most mana efficient, and they are helpless without their mana. Kill the totems with either a melee hit or a rank one Seal’s Judgment. Killing them all never hurts. Remember that, if you try to heal, the shaman will more often than not use Earth Shock on you and interrupt you. You can try to fake them out by starting a heal and immediately canceling, and if you get hit by Frost Shock or (lol) Flame Shock you have a window of 6 seconds to heal uninterrupted. It frightens me how many times a shaman has cast Flame or Frost Shock on me. Earth Shock’s spell lockdown timer is very short, so for each time he successfully interrupts you, you should be able to pull off one large heal. Warrior Warriors are one of the easier classes for a paladin to kill. We want to stay melee, so hamstring is meaningless to us. We wear plate, reducing the damage the warrior deals by 40%-60%, and our damage is largely holy, which ignores armor. The fight against a warrior is slow and steady. Heal high (so that you never risk getting executed or combo’d) and be prepared to bubble if your health gets too low and Mortal Strike is on you, ruining your heals. Remember that the warrior has Pummel and Shield Bash to interrupt your casting, so be very careful about healing when melee. The interrupt costs rage, so if you see their rage bar is empty, go for it. Mage If you can survive their opening burst damage sequence of a mage, you can beat the mage. Just keep your health high and flying with Flash of Light and watch amusedly as their mana bar empties out on you. Counterspell is a threat to you, but if they don’t hit you with it as you cast, you can just bubble out of it. If you get spell locked, the fight is over, because the mage will have 10 solid seconds to do whatever he wants to you. The longer this fight takes, the more likely you are to win. Once the mage runs out of mana, the fight is over, but it’s not going to be easy for you. Paladin Do not fight another paladin if you are in a Battleground queue, it will take too long. But if you have to, the winner is the paladin who’s mana lasts longer. Seal of Wisdom, Blessing of Wisdom, efficient heals and efficient damage, just be careful not to be wasteful. I don’t want to even think about these fights, I’ve seen them take 15 or more mintues. Warlock The second hardest fight for a paladin. Between Fear and Seduce, the warlock will get free reign over beating on you when it wants to, and if it has a Felhunter out you can expect to lose your blessings and get spell locked every time you try to cast. Similar to a priest, there is no very reliable method for downing a warlock, but if you can treat them as a mage and heal through the damage you can come out on top. If it starts relying on Life Tap to get mana back, you can kill it without resistance, but getting the fight to this point is very difficult. Expect to be feared often enough to make you want to throw your mouse through the wall. Cleanse the dots and keep melee with him if you can, and if you see s Succubus or Imp, you should cast Exorcise on it and finish it off with melee, as it will remove reasonable amount of the warlock’s fighting power Link again: web/20061110225817/http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11931828&sid=1 Cheers!
  18. Hey all! I try to toss this thread up on each server I make my home on for any who need it. Being a very detail oriented person, in anticipation of game/server releases, I always use a spreadsheet to keep track of my plans and other important information. I have put together a character planning spreadsheet that many always ask me to share, so I have uploaded it for use. Below you will find a template, as well as my personal copy as an example. Template Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RGfIoKMbqNaEoWa2LdU5FunXEQYPZXgH1A6fGNPu9Uo/edit?usp=sharing Example Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BteC4EbOK-xDDjE5FBzvl4hveeMMXkOakGO-hAEsy6s/edit?usp=sharing Instructions: First Option. Copy to a new Google Docs spreadsheet. 1. Log into your Google Account and open the desired spreadsheet link. 2. In the "File" dropdown, select "Make a Copy". 3. Give it a name and hit OK. Second Option. Download the spreadsheet to your computer. If you don't wish to use Google docs for whatever reason, you can also download a local copy. 1. In the "File" dropdown, select "Download as". 2. Choose desired file type and download to your computer.
  19. Step #1: Set up your fishing addons and understand exactly what you will be fishing for. Download and unzip the 1.12.1 compatible version of FishingBuddy. Amongst many other things, this addon allows you to cast your rod by simply right clicking on any water deep enough to fish in (only when you have a rod equipped obviously), mutes world sound and increases the volume of the 'splash' when you have a catch (if toggled in the options), tracks your catches, time spent fishing and a whole host of useful titbits for fishers. I've included the addon as an attachment to this guide. So, fishing is well partnered with cooking, and is one of the better ways of making money. Most people find it boring, and never get it much beyond level ~100 (if they bother with it at all) and you can easily make good gold by farming raid consumables like Sagefish for Sagefish Delight or Deviate Fish for people either gaming the Garr encounter or generally looking for an outfit. Deviates sell slightly better Alliance side than Horde side, simply due to the fact that it's more of a pain to get to Wailing Caverns for them than it is for Horde. Prices range depending on the server, but you're looking at 5g Alliance and 3g Horde currently on K2 for a stack of 20. We're going to presume the following; You're fishing specifically to level your skills, not just for fun. You bought the Fishing Book and Cooking Skill books while leveling. You have several stacks of Lures and the +5 (10) fishing pole to get started with. You've saved your meat from leveling, or already have some points in cooking from leveling. This guide will tell you the best places to go to get the most 'bang for your buck'. You can technically get level 300 fishing without leaving the starter zone except for your training, since it levels off how much stuff you catch, not the difficulty of stuff that you catch. It is important that you level cooking in conjunction with leveling, because if you rely just on fishing to level it you will require many, many, many more catches to reach 300 cooking. It is also important to understand the difference between salt water and fresh water fish. At level 1, you can learn both the Brilliant Smallfish recipe and the Slitherskin Mackerel. Smallfish are freshwater fish, and can only be caught from lakes and river. Mackerel are saltwater fish, and can only be caught from the Sea in areas level 1-10. This guide almost exclusively focuses on Fresh Water fish. Note: Find Fish and the Weather-Beaten Journal were added in TBC patch 2.3, don't waste time fishing pools looking for it. Well worth reading this thread before you start as well, for the discussion on various poles and where to get them. Step #2: Learn Cooking and Fishing from the apprentice trainers, and head to your first location. Alliance: 1-75 - Crystal Lake in Elwynn Forest. Horde: 1-75 - Bloodhoof Village Lake in Mulgore. You will get roughly 70-75% Brilliant Smallfish, and 25-30% Longjaw Mud Snapper. It should not take more than 75-90 casts to reach level 75, depending on how unlucky you get during the early levels with fish getting away. Cook everything you catch. If we presume each cast takes the full 30 seconds to catch something & loot it, and you have a 100% catch rate, it will take 37 minutes and 30 seconds to complete this stage. You will not need a lure for this stage. It took me 75 catches to go from 0-75. If we presume each cast takes the full 30 seconds to catch something & loot it, and you have a 100% catch rate, it will take around minutes to go from 0-75. Roughly 1 skill every 1.01 catches. Cooking Recipes; Brilliant Smallfish (1), Slitherskin Mackerel (1), Longjaw Mud Snapper (50), Rainbow Fin Albacore (50). Step #3: Learn Journeyman Fishing and Cooking. Alliance: 75-110 - Loch Modan. Horde: 75-110 - Orgrimmar Pond. Once you reach skill 100, it is recommended that you start to use a lure. You will catch roughly 50% Longjaw Mud Snapper in this section. Most guides advise you to go to Stormwind Canals. However, on some servers (Kronos for example) the canals of SW are not able to be fished at all due to Mangos bugs. The reason you are advised to go to SW is that it has a slightly higher drop rate of Bristle Whisker Catfish, which are mainly used for this stage of cooking. However, if you go to Loch Modan, you can also get the Loch Frenzy Delight recipe. Loch Frenzies are 'attached' to other fish when you catch them, netting you 2 fish per cast. If you are lucky and get plenty of Frenzies, this can be the most efficient places in the entire game to level cooking and fishing when compared for time per cast. You can also find Floating Wreckage and Sagefish Schools around the Loch that you cannot find in SW. The Sagefish are particularly useful, especially if you are a mana user and are going to be doing isntances. If you can't use them yourself, pass them to your healer and make your leveling life that little bit easier. Between level 75 and level 100 you are no longer guaranteed one skill point per catch, and you will being to creep towards averaging 2 catches per point. Between level 100 and 175, you are no longer guaranteed skill points at all, and you will begin to see skill points fluctuating between two and five catches. This trend remains the same until level 300, with the average creeping up to around 20 catches per skill as you approach 300. It took me 56 catches to go from 75 to 110 in Loch Modan, with 16 'bonus' Loch Frenzies. If we presume each cast takes the full 30 seconds to catch something & loot it, and you have a 100% catch rate, it will take around 28 minutes to go from 75-110. Roughly 1 skill point from every 1.6 catches. Cooking Recipes; Loch Frenzy (50), Smoked Sagefish (80), Bristle Whisker Catfish (100). Step #4: Learning Expert Fishing & Cooking. Both Factions: 110-150 - The Tarren Mill/Southshore River. Use the book "Expert Fishing - The Bass and You" as soon as you are able to (125). This can be bought in Booty Bay (Stranglethorn Vale) from Old Man Heming. Use the book "Expert Cookbook" as soon as you are able to (125). It can be bought from either Shandrina in Ashenvale (Alliance) or from Wulan in Desolcae (Horde). Here you will be mainly catching Bristle Whisker Catfish (50-60%), as well as getting Sagefish from the schools dotted along the river. It is worth doing Soothing Turtle Bisque at the same time, each faction has its own version of this quest. It took me 92 catches to go from 110-150. If we presume each cast takes the full 30 seconds to catch something & loot it, and you have a 100% catch rate, it will take around 46 minutes to go from 110-150. Roughly 1 skill every 2.3 catches. In this step and beyond, you will begin to see world PvP if you are playing on the appropriate server. Be wary, fishing players are a prime target to gank. Cooking Recipes; You will continue to level up with Bristle Whisker Catfish (100) here. For this part of leveling cooking, you have many more recipes that are for generic meat drops than for fishing. Step #5: Getting ready for Cooking & Fishing quests. Alliance: 150-180 - The lakes/moat of Stromguard Keep in Arathi Highlands. Alliance: 180-225 - Lake Nazferiti in Stranglethorn Vale. Horde: 150-175 - The pier in Shadowprey Village in Desolace. Horde: 175-225 - Swamp of Sorrows. For this part of leveling cooking, you have many more recipes that are for generic meat drops than for fishing. 150-175 on purely Catfish can take a lot of fish. You will be getting Mithril Head Trout between 50-60% of the time. Cooking Recipes; Sagefish Delight (175), Mithril Head Trout (175), Rockscale Cod (175). It took me 176 catches to go from 150-180. If we presume each cast takes the full 30 seconds to catch something & loot it, and you have a 100% catch rate, it will take around 88 minutes to go from 150-180. Roughly 1 skill every 5.8 catches. This is the next part of the 'break point' with catches explained earlier. While you will occasionally be getting points every 2/3 casts, we are now starting to approach the real true grind. You will have had some skill points between 150-175 reach the 10-15 casts per point stage, 179-180 took me 17 catches. From 175-225, you can expect the average to continue trending upwards. It took me 358 catches to go from 180-225. If we presume each cast takes the full 30 seconds to catch something & loot it, and you have a 100% catch rate, it will take around 179 minutes (~3 hours) to go from 180-225. Roughly 1 skill every 11.9 catches. As I said in the previous paragraph, you can see how the average catch-skill ratio has continued to increase. If you are Alliance and fishing Lake Nazferiti, make sure to check north and south of the lake for Greater Sagefish schools and Floating Wreckage. The Wreckage in this area tends to drop Iron Bound Trunks, while regularly gives Bolts of Silk and Mageweave cloth. This part also saw the longest chain of catches between skill ups, with it taking 27 catches to go from 203-204. As I did all the writing for this guide on Kronos 2, this is where I will stop giving time guidelines. I was playing a level 29 alliance PvP twink, and had no desire to go past 225 on a character I am not playing long term. It took me 757 catches, roughly 378.5 minutes (6.5 hours) to do 1-225, including writing this guide in the background. Step #6: Cooking and Fishing quests for Artisan level crafting. Nat Pagel Quest To learn fishing skill past 225, you need to visit the head man himself, Nat Pagel. He sits on a small island west of Theramore, and gives the quest Nat Pagle, Angler Extreme. This requires you to; Fish a Ferelas Ahi, caught to the west of Camp Mojache, under the bridge by the Ogres. Fish Misty Reed Mahi Mahi, from the east coast of the Swamp of Sorrows. Fish a Sar'theris Striker, from the Sar'theris Strand in Desolace. (Same place Rogues go to level up lockpicking, watch out on a PvP server!) Fish a Savage Coast Blue Sailfin, from the Savage Coast in north west Stranglethorn Vale. Return all four fish to Nat to learn Artisan Fishing. Clamlette Surprise Quest Clamlette Surprise is a quest given by Dirge Quikcleave, in the Tanaris Inn. It requires you to bring him; 12 Giant Egg's (dropped by the Roc's in Tanaris). 10 Zesty Clam Meat (looted from the clams dropped by Turtles, Giants and Crawlers in Tanaris). 20 Alterac Swiss cheese. There is no where to but it nearby, it's recommended you bring it with you before coming to get the quest, otherwise you have lots of running/flying back to a capital city. Turning in those three items will teach you Artisan Cooking. Step #7: The "Grind" strikes back. Alliance 225-250 - The pier at Steamwheedle Port in Tanaris. Horde: 225-250 - The Coast around Raventusk Village in the Hinterlands. Cooking Recipes; Spotted Yellowtail (225), Grilled Squid (240), Hot Smoked Bass (240). Step #8: Nearly Over! Both: 250-275 - Bloodvenom Falls in Felwood. Cooking Recipes; Poached Sunscale Salmon (250), Nightfin Soup (250) Step #9: Finished. Both: 275-300 - Azshara, Winterspring, Eastern Plaguelands. Pick your poison, this is the longest and most grindiest part of skilling up fishing. World PvP is about equal in all zones, so it's literally just a case of finding somewhere out of the way and sticking to it! Cooking Recipes; Baked Salmon (275), Lobster Stew (275), Mightfish Steak (275). FishingBuddy_v0.8.8e.zip