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  1. Hello, i'm Tronus and i'm an European guy that want to create and push a good cooperative guild through this Vanilla realm (both PvE, PvP). I've seen that at the moment there aren't active horde guilds in recruiting, so i thought to create my own one and regroup all the disbanded players that want to join "HORDE". So the main objectives that i would to reach are: - create a good cooperative guild group in which one can help each other ( this is a prio for all the group); - create a good raid group (with a flex raid schedule) to try to reach the "First Realm"; - create good and competitive BG/Arena groups with the goal to destroy the "ALLIANCE" and to push the rating; - enjoy the contents and have fun togheter; These are the main objectives that i would try to reach with your help, for any questions about it just send me a message and i'll try to answer you as soon as possible. So ty for reading this post and see you soon in the game. "For the Horde". P.S: as soon as i will see people coming to this "call" a guild forum will be created with the apply section to make a census about the races and classes we would need for the guild. Tronus.
  2. Hello. A lot of you may know about this guy who clearly has a small chip on his shoulder about Kronos. I check up on his stats from time to time, have to say I consider them to be factual and accurate. The latest stats are extremely worrying about Kronos, pre-merger. Link is here If Kronos throw in the towel (as I have no doubt that they consider the server to be a commercial entity and not a charity vehicle) then this would be a serious blow to the community.
  3. So. We might as well get this over with. There have been signs of it bubbling over the last couple of days, and so as the PvE boys and girls are usually first in most things WoW, I might as well start the process. To recap, Crestfall will start with two realms as an intention. The only guarantee is a PvP realm, the PvE version is an almost certainty but people should still advocate and argue for its inclusion. It would be fair to say that relations between both communities can be strained at times. Because the PvP realms tend to have a higher population (typically 4:1) than the PvE realms, it can sometimes feel that the PvE players are constantly subjected to banter and other relatively harmless slagging. But nevermind, in this thread we'll rise above it all and give you the rundown starting with.... IN THE BEGINNING World of Warcraft was launched Stateside on the 23rd November 2004. I have to admit I wasn't there. They launched the game with a bunch of realms that they added to over the years. But in the beginning we had: PvP realms - 43 over three time zones PvE realms - 41 over three time zones RP realms - 5 but we're not going into that....not that there's anything wrong with it So the PvP vs PvE debate, players vote with their feet and developers and managers crunch numbers to adjust accordingly. So in order to identify popularity and preference, we just need to look at what server types were launched in the whole of 2005 to see what the preference was for....so for that year, these are the numbers of what was released: PvP realms +18 PvE realms +8 Clearly therefore, in Vanilla WoW PvP servers were overwhelmingly more popular that PvE ones *once people had played the game and read about it* However, this is clearly related to the New World perspective where everyone can form a militia and arm it with assault rifles. Surely in Europe, where we have culture in amidst starting global wars, we'd show a less aggressive approach and prefer the tranquil, cultural backwaters that are PvE realms, right? So we dug into the figures on the launch date in Europe 11th February 2005 - no, I wasn't around for that either but it is my wife's birthday so I have an excuse - and found this.... PvP realms - 19 over two countries PvE realms - 16 over two countries So let's see what happened over the next 12 months PvP realms +26 PvE realms +5 So let's put this in black and white. In Vanilla, and through progressions, the overwhelming demand from players was to play on PvP realms. Blizzard may have started out with the idea that demand would be split pretty evenly but within a year, they were mass-producing PvP realms to tailor for the demand. Factoid for this section: PvE is referred to by Blizzard as 'Normal Realm' which makes PvP abnormal, right? RAID PROGRESSION So now we can concentrate on realm firsts. We'll stick with the US for Vanilla as they had quite the head start, but if we look at what realms cleared the first bosses we see as follows: Onyxia - Proudmoore US PvE 30.01.2005 Molten Core (Ragnaros) - Ascent US PvE 25.04.2005 BWL (Nefarian) - Shattered Hand US PvP 26.09.2005 Temple of AQ (C'Thun) - Magtheridon EU PvE 25.04.2006 Naxxramas (Kel'thuzad) - Magtheridon EU PvE 07.09.2006 Now I find these results fascinating. The US had a huge head start (about 13 weeks on the EU) and even downed Onyxia before the EU realms even started. Now in fairness C'thun by all accounts was impossible to kill, and eventually was nerfed with the fix taking place at the start of the US raid reset giving the EU guilds first shot (read about it HERE), but clearly no such excuses for Kel'thuzad. For our purposes, what's really important is this. Factoid for this section: In spite of the proliferation of PvP realms, when it comes to raid progression in Vanilla, if the numbers on the population are equal, PvE realms record more server firsts REALM TYPES IN VANILLA Last update on the Reddit forum on WoW private servers (June 30th 2016) is as follows: Feenix Server Rates: x5 Hollowfall Rates: x1 Kronos WoW Rates: x1 Nemesis WoW Rates: x1 (quests x2) Magic WoW Rates: x1 (quests x2) PvE Nostal Geek Rates: x1 Retro WoW Rates: Instant 60 Stormage Rates: x20 The Rebirth Rates: x1 Valkyrie Wow Rates: x1 Vanilla Gaming Rates: x1-x15 Vanilla Servers Rates: x1 Virtue Arena Rates: x1 Let's break this down to ''proper'' Vanilla servers with 1x rates and add in recent or upcoming servers: Hollowfall - this website cannot be reached Kronos I - PvP, active, decent population Kronos II - PvP active, decent population Nostal Geek - PvP French, no idea The Rebirth - PvP, low population, numerous issues in the past Valkyrie - PvP Russian only Elysium - PvP English speaking variant of Valkyrie launched this month Vanilla Servers - PvP I sense the force is weak in this one Virtue Arena (Bathos) - PvE (yah!) but looks dead So, in very broad brushstrokes, for PvP realms that are functional and have decent populations we have two. For PvP realms that are problematical owing to population/language/legacy issues we have four. For everything else we have a combination of accelerated rates, gimped websites, lousy reddit forums and non-activity and only one of those is PvE. Factoid for this session: PvP players in vanilla have a limited choice on where they can play, PvE players have none. Conclusions and Best Guesses The fact of the matter is that we really won't know what the populations on the PvP and PvE servers will be. But we can make an educated guess. We can expect total madness and chaos at the start, and I am very pleased about this as I have never been there for the creation of a new realm before. So when we look at the past in relation to progression of realms in retail and the very cogent example that Nostalrius gave us on their PvP and PvE realms, we can be pretty sure that in normal circumstances, the PvP population will be 3 to 4 times greater than the PvE version. But these are not normal circumstances. With the dearth of choice for PvE players we can expect that the numbers will be a lot closer. I believe that when the realms settle down after 6 or so months, the PvP will have maxed out at 4-5000 players. I actually think that the PvE realm will be very close to this and I'll tell you why. Unless another PvP realm is released then those players who want to play on a CF core will go to the PvE realm. So if you are reading this and wondering what the smart choice is, it's this. Join the PvE realm knowing that the server will start off slow and build up a head of steam as more players hear about us. Not having the option of the PvP realm they'll convert to us. And you will be sitting very pretty at L60 with the world as your oyster. Crestfall Kel'thuzad first? PvE realm thank you very much. Working as intended.